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There of course were other concerns, but the email leak was the biggest issue between both candidates by a landslide.
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That Sanders statement is widely viewed as a political blunder, as most people, especially those on the fence, cared enormously about her emails and the fact she was under federal investigation. It's impossible to know it's effect with certainty, but I think it's worth considering her Vegas odds plummeted just after the announcement iirc.
No, they really weren't. The defining theme of the election was a burned out electorate who stopped giving a shit, and regarded it as the shiniest of two turds. People didn't care about Hillary's emails because they just took it as a given that she was tarnished goods. Her trust numbers, if they can even be said to exist, reflect that, because they were dramatically lower than her actual level of support, showing even those willing to vote for her had no faith in her. One more reason to distrust her is just like piling one more pussy-grab onto trump: It accomplished nothing, because it was overkill and affected a weakness that had already been hollowed out.
The democrats lost because they made horrible tactical blunders and ran a widely hated candidate. Their campaign reeked of having been focus-group tested with a bunch of californians chosen for their diversity. Their two biggest artificial silver bullets to try to kill trump were an angry muslim man and a clip of him saying some women want to be fondled by rich and powerful men. That sure really radicalized the already radical left wingers against trump, but boy oh boy did she abandon the rust belt, abandon the white working class, even forfeit a chunk of latinos. Because the kind of guy who gets home from a job building a house and cracks open a beer and watches Vince McMahon get his head shaved by Donald Trump in the middle of the ring isn't going to suddenly be swayed by identity politics, and if anything, finds trump more relatable and trustworthy. After all, what he said about grabbing women by the pussy wasn't just true, it was the kind of thing they could see themselves saying among other guys. Trump painted himself as the kind of billionaire the common man imagines he'd be if he got rich, and the democrats, being morons, did it too instead of painting him as as a robber baron or soulless oligarch.
If Clinton had any trust credibility left going into the general election, it was obliterated by the wikileaks showing she cheated to beat Bernie with direct collusion, not just with superdelegates. Any hope of transferring over Bernie's groundswell of momentum was lost with that and with it, pretty much any hope of winning the election. And she can blame Bernie for tearing apart her general election ambitions with the contentious primary- even though he ran it so positive, and bent over and let her buttfuck him with a strap-on when it was done- and she can blame the russian hackers or Putin, or she can blame Comey or let Donna Brazile and DWS and let them fall on their swords claiming responsibility, but the blame rested entirely with HRC and the DNC. They made every bad decision, tried to shit on the electorate and steal the win and run the most cynical, manipulative and debased campaign in american history (which is truly saying something, because I do have the historical perspective of our founding fathers being assholes to each other), and all they got for it was a pie to the face when they elected a clown
This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 24 2017 03:11pm