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Apr 11 2017 03:36pm
Quote (Knaapie @ Apr 11 2017 03:29pm)
Fake news =/= news I don't like. Or is it ? hmmm.
Perhaps that's not a bad definition.


I apply the Potter Stewart test, I know it when I see it
I know its shameful and morally abhorrent for the anne frank center to exist as a partisan political bludgeon powered by the suffering of a dead jewish girl
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Apr 11 2017 03:41pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 11 2017 03:54pm)
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/328320-anne-frank-center-calls-for-spicer-to-be-fired

I think the real story is how the anne frank center is just a partisan propaganda attack machine soapboxing on a little girl's corpse
They make it pretty transparent what their agenda is when they conflate someone making a gaffe with holocaust denial or antisemitism
Thats really the worst kind of fake news. Not enough to profit off the memory of a young girl exploring her clit before she got gassed, but gotta rattle the bones for cynical partisan point scoring


Agreed.

Also, the Democrats calling for his resignation are laughable.

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Apr 11 2017 03:52pm
Quote (Goomshill @ 11 Apr 2017 22:36)
I apply the Potter Stewart test, I know it when I see it
I know its shameful and morally abhorrent for the anne frank center to exist as a partisan political bludgeon powered by the suffering of a dead jewish girl


I don't know if they are partisan from only this example, could be true tbh.
I'm happy it got some attention and the statement was elaborated. That's what I get from reading the article.

New York is somewhat run by Democratic Jews. The state wanted to put sanctions on the Netherlands for questioning fair water distribution in Israel. Also partisan news, yet news nevertheless.

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Apr 11 2017 04:12pm
Quote (IceMage @ Apr 11 2017 03:41pm)
Agreed.

Also, the Democrats calling for his resignation are laughable.


Pretty sure democrats have called for the resignation of every single republican at this point citing faux outrage.
Hell, they even started turning on their own, Howard Dean used it on Tulsi Gabbard today
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Pretty sure democrats have called for the resignation of every single republican at this point citing faux outrage.
Hell, they even started turning on their own, Howard Dean used it on Tulsi Gabbard today


Pretty sure Republicans have used fouler moves in the opposition than that. It's the problem you have when there are effectively only 2 parties combating each other all the time.
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Apr 11 2017 05:04pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Apr 11 2017 05:12pm)
Pretty sure democrats have called for the resignation of every single republican at this point citing faux outrage.
Hell, they even started turning on their own, Howard Dean used it on Tulsi Gabbard today


That's what I don't get... any fair minded person can't take them seriously because they are calling for resignations practically every week.
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Apr 11 2017 05:06pm
Quote (Knaapie @ Apr 11 2017 04:58pm)
Pretty sure Republicans have used fouler moves in the opposition than that. It's the problem you have when there are effectively only 2 parties combating each other all the time.


I think whats telling is that the republicans have used fouler moves more effectively
Hillary channeled the hell out of Rove, but black baby maneuver and swiftboating actually won elections because they were planned with low cunning, whereas the muslim-obama thing backfired and so did all the assortments of smears on trump. Russiagate, calling everyone sexist/racist/islamophobic/etc didn't work in november and isn't going to work now. If they're going to sell their souls to satan, the republicans are going to be better at it
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Quote (Goomshill @ 12 Apr 2017 00:06)
I think whats telling is that the republicans have used fouler moves more effectively
Hillary channeled the hell out of Rove, but black baby maneuver and swiftboating actually won elections because they were planned with low cunning, whereas the muslim-obama thing backfired and so did all the assortments of smears on trump. Russiagate, calling everyone sexist/racist/islamophobic/etc didn't work in november and isn't going to work now. If they're going to sell their souls to satan, the republicans are going to be better at it


^^ Democrats are not used to be in the opposition with so much "injustice" going on from their perspective. I'm not sure about overall effectiveness, difficult to measure and the approval ratings are historically low. I'd contribute that to the poor government and not "effective" opposition.

Russiagate seems to work well though. Really gets ppl emotionally involved.
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Apr 11 2017 05:14pm
Quote (IceMage @ 11 Apr 2017 21:41)
Agreed.

Also, the Democrats calling for his resignation are laughable.


I'm not a democrat but I do think he should resign. Not because of the holocaust comment specifically. But because he is incompetent in general and this latest blunder is just another symptom of his general inability to do his job.
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Apr 11 2017 05:20pm
Quote (Scaly @ Apr 11 2017 06:14pm)
I'm not a democrat but I do think he should resign. Not because of the holocaust comment specifically. But because he is incompetent in general and this latest blunder is just another symptom of his general inability to do his job.


He's not good, but I don't see any replacements in line who would do better. Laura Ingraham would've killed it, Jason Miller would've done a good job.
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