Quote (Thor123422 @ Mar 19 2017 09:57pm)
Being neutral isn't something to be proud of. Neutrality means calling everything 50/50. Being objective means calling it as it is, which means taking a side when it's obvious.
Anyway I don't really mind having a favorable candidate as long as they are fair to the other side. Even TYT gives trump credit when he takes a good position. Funny though that trump has flipped on most of his most popular positions after the election.
Neutrality means calling something without having special interests or thinking of "who stands to benefit from this news" or "if we report this as is with no spin, do we risk losing funding?, If that's the case what would be a better "presentation" of this news so we don't loose the funding? or "Our audience is primarily this demographic, which prefers these opinions, so to maintain viewership or that corporate overhead we have to pedal these opinions. You get my point.
For all intensive purposes neutrality is synonymous with objectivity in this discussion. Neutrality/objectivity is nearly non existent in our political world and the people claiming to be 100% objective are full of shit. We've been all socialized on this planet, every single one of us has been exposed to opinions that have shaped us, so to claim objectivity on any issue is nonsense. There's people on the left like inkandagger, there's social conservatives like myself, there's libertarians, there's people on the right like Goomshill that can articulate & expound his opinions better than anyone on this forum. We all see bias in the MSM but yet so many of you want to label us some sort of conspiracy theorist or low information or brain washed by Trump or whatever when it's the complete opposite.
Quote (Voyaging @ Mar 19 2017 09:59pm)
Yes precisely, too many people conflate non-neutrality with bias. It's perfectly possible to be non-neutral and opinionated while remaining complete rational with zero bias. Bias is when one's opinions or ideologies have a harmful effect on one's reasoning.
No it's really not as easy as you think. It's so hard that even brilliant minds that have spent their entire lives on being "objective" in handing down their verdicts as judges can reach the supreme court and find disagreements. Most of us plebs wouldn't dare say that a supreme court judge is not being objective on any given issue but here they are disagreeing when all seemingly coming from life long positions of objectivity.
This post was edited by ofthevoid on Mar 19 2017 11:19pm