Yea man I can't seem to get away from this game and ghost sins

Now you're basically trying to compare gores and dancers, which is hard to say really without an indepth analysis. For a 1os eth fools claw I would personally lean towards using gores, even if it means using a few fhr shadow gcs or what have you.

I think desynching on a wwsin (in general) should be regarded as a bonus if its convenient for your gear/build. As soon as you are thinking about pumping Str it's probably no longer worth the hassle. Just my 2 cents.

This post was edited by Decarnate on Jan 23 2017 04:28pm

I started to play this ladder, and somehow got this 1soc war fist, and one thing led to another...regarding the str pumping, that was made towards shadow dancers. You can't wear shadow dancers without str in circlet+ring, so the only other option is pumping str+ring (no str bug enigma), but it's not that bad since they give a massive bonus of stats from that previous comment.

So you say 8-9gc and gores? I planned war fist 40 285 + runic chaos + 80 30 circlet + dancer/gores. I presume gores require +2 gc...dancers give so much ar tho, but I have no Um/ber/lo in fools...

90ias for trap and dclaw, didn't manage to think about switches. Chaos suwayyah or cruel wf perhaps.

This post was edited by monSt4r on Jan 23 2017 04:47pm

Personally I use 6 x 45 life skillers, 1 x 5 fhr sc and rest are 322's.
9 skillers will make you save 3 points in fade and slightly pump your venom damage.
On the other save idea you'll lose life and some damage/ar.

About boots, based on my personal opinion and experience, I wouldn't ever trade dancers for gores.

Dancers and gores are really close. I think decarnate is right, if your claw doesn't have an open socket, gores are probably better. By a really really small margin, I just dug out some ancient excel and punched in the numbers.

Imo get suwayyah chaos for gva, slap on feral chaos vs Necs and sorcs, no need for 80/30 in helm, melee jewels with psn res are nice to accommodate a gvg build with 10x melee scs swap. I agree to go with gores and for fhr, get 14 in ur hat and 3x 5/5's in inv. For gvg, 3/20/5's (x2), and ow belt

9x gcs imo


Str ring for pubs (with fire and/or light res)
Dex ring for gvg (psn res)

This post was edited by FalcorTheBully on Jan 24 2017 03:27am

Interesting, but why not 80/30 helm? I need 90 ias for 9 trap laying with war fist + runic chaos, no wsm bug (I like fools hitting on 4th frame). Edit, also Andy helm eth/non eth is not bad gvg, if you like gvg so much

This post was edited by monSt4r on Jan 24 2017 03:34am

Yep close but still the benefits you get from 30% fhr/dex plus the skills are hard to beat.

Personally I use this setup:

Chaos Suwayyah 3 mb, 3ls, 1wof, 14% ed
Fool's Feral 297% ed 40 ias eth selfrep 1 sox (um)
Diadem 2 Assa, Visio, 20% fcr, 20 dex, 38 life 2 sox - 2 x 7%fhr, 30% ed, 9 str, 10@
Highlord
Ring 10% fcr, 119 ar, 20 str, 38 life, 87 mana, 29% cold res + raven
Trangs
Dancers
Arak

6 x shadows 45 life
1 x 5% fhr 5@
18 x 322's
anni/torch


It works just fine since I have almost stacked res, max dr with fade, 48% fhr bp, 4302 life, decent damage. Also max ias frame just flashing chaos for wsm glitch.

Ofc that's not a top Ghost but does her job and I basically use 1 setup vs any opponent. Got some backups/prebuff in stash but I almost never use em.

This post was edited by Darkal on Jan 24 2017 03:48am

I don't think 9 fps is first priority, 1-2 traps should do it in most cases, few more if u want to or change chaos for matchup. On ghost with the way claws are these days, heavily imported and hard to compete with, if choose as much damage as I could get vs other ghosts and barbs

Spoken like a true master of the Assassin.

str bug helps when you ww to lure your opponents
they think ur somewhere that you're not cause your frw is slower on their screen
aka it's easier to hit them but harder for them to hit you.