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Jan 29 2017 12:20am
Quote (Bosu @ Jan 28 2017 07:44pm)
Edc is viable and affordable.

Almost all zealers on west own a 2 socket eth/rep fools weapon, players on west zeal and bvb are wealthy.


Edc aren't touching 290 ed 2 socket eth rep fools zerks camman

Quote (Bosu @ Jan 28 2017 06:52pm)
49% deadly strike / 50% crushing blow

25% chance cast 18 level glacial, zealers have no resistance


Super overpowered weapon, thats why is banned in zeal



Yes it's 49% DS but a Lo Lo 2 socket eth rep fools is 40% DS but 100% less ed

Eth zerks is 36-106 dmg so 100% ed is 36-106 extra dmg so..

9% DS 50% CB 36 min 106 max vs 40 ias 1600 ar 49 max

Both 300% eth zerker..

Fools is a lot more balanced and strong. Silly to ban it when there are more powerful weapons GM

Like banning 3645 prud but zbug fort GM xD

Anyways not to spam this tourney. .. I got a pretty strong opinion on this though.

This post was edited by ZeaLORDeaL on Jan 29 2017 12:31am
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Jan 29 2017 12:26am
i agree with zealordeal on death. I mean it may be overpowered but you have to use 2 ias items now.the fact that you need a 30-40k rare weapon to even stand a chance against the gm zvz on this realm greatly discourages anyone new from getting involved.
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Will be starting a Zeal bash after tourney ends, sign up when u can thx :)

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75876488&f=147
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Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ 28 Jan 2017 23:20)
Edc aren't touching 290 ed 2 socket eth rep fools zerks camman




Yes it's 49% DS but a Lo Lo 2 socket eth rep fools is 40% DS but 100% less ed

Eth zerks is 36-106 dmg so 100% ed is 36-106 extra dmg so..

9% DS 50% CB 36 min 106 max vs 40 ias 1600 ar 49 max

Both 300% eth zerker..

Fools is a lot more balanced and strong. Silly to ban it when there are more powerful weapons GM

Like banning 3645 prud but zbug fort GM xD

Anyways not to spam this tourney. .. I got a pretty strong opinion on this though.


Edc shaft build is very strong, I lost to End in KOZ using edc.

Random guy was beating me in zealpk, I checked his gear, he was using edc shaft build non perfect items.

Death was banned before I even start zealing in 2011, you know death is overpowered! We talked about this many times.

You hosted tournaments in the past allowing death, which is cool with me, I don't get involved in your tournament rules.

I banned Prudence in the past, because I wanted zealers to use different armors and try different builds.

If I would allow Zbug Fort, it would be the only best option, same as Prudence, there no better armor than Prudence.








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Quote (desekrate @ Jan 28 2017 11:26pm)
i agree with zealordeal on death. I mean it may be overpowered but you have to use 2 ias items now.the fact that you need a 30-40k rare weapon to even stand a chance against the gm zvz on this realm greatly discourages anyone new from getting involved.



Yeah I joined the zeal community late when I came back to the game. I just use EDC and stay out of tournaments lol. I don't think death is too overpowered. Specially in the wallet lol

I also find the west zeal community way too picky compared to east. But I don't know anyone on east.

This post was edited by PunisherxX on Jan 29 2017 01:37am
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Jan 29 2017 02:47am
Crushing Blow removes 10% of the current life of your target, minus 50% dr, so its 5%
death 50% cb + gores 15% cb = 65% cb
death 385ed
49% deadly strike
20% ar
50 ar
25% chance glacial spike on hit
174-514 base damage

vs

300ed
40% deadly strike
99% ar on lvl 99 char
fools zerk
144-472 base damage


I'm not sure what some of you are smoking, but there is a big difference. :lol:

Death has more damage, you get 65% to do extra 5% dmg, 9% extra ds and 25% glacial spike on hit.


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too late tourney has alrdy started :mellow:

the ladder is coming soon tho http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75876488&f=147
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Quote (ValyrianSteel @ Jan 29 2017 03:33am)
too late tourney has alrdy started :mellow:

the ladder is coming soon tho http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75876488&f=147


thats still non ladder..
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Quote (Bosu @ Jan 29 2017 12:47am)
Crushing Blow removes 10% of the current life of your target, minus 50% dr, so its 5%
death 50% cb + gores 15% cb = 65% cb
death 385ed
49% deadly strike
20% ar
50 ar
25% chance glacial spike on hit
174-514 base damage

vs

300ed
40% deadly strike
99% ar on lvl 99 char
fools zerk
144-472 base damage


I'm not sure what some of you are smoking, but there is a big difference. :lol:

Death has more damage, you get 65% to do extra 5% dmg, 9% extra ds and 25% glacial spike on hit.


glacial spike is 200 cold damage, and most zeal have high cold res from storm shield / anni / torch / prudence. 25% chance to do that - pretty negligible.

you're forgetting 40% ias and 1600 attack rating on the fools weapon.

there's no doubt death is more damage. . 2 soc eth rep fools is stronger. there's no question.

if you use highlord with death AR is going to be below 20k - and you aren't going to hit reliably against 45k defense. Fools easily sits around 25k ar with highlord, and requires no more ias all jewel sockets can be stats like 30/60/9/9.. 54 life per socket from stats
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