Quote (ampoo @ 11 Dec 2016 23:59)
why would i pretend to be a victim? i am just like you are, if you are against this madness
when people in university (i am working as a tutor there) are bullshitting me, when i refused to make a tutorium for refugees in my free time
when my health insurance declines treatment for my knee (that was provided for until spring 2016), because their cost for migrant medical care are exploding, and this shit cost me over 1k€ by now
then there is no need to pretend
since you are nailing everything down to my comment about random violent acts
i already told you that its not possible to provide you with anything, except what i already posted and experience....the fact that violent crime is on the rise and cities descend into chaos (plus the cover up)
call the 99% a polemic, whatever you want, but let me rephrase what i was actually trying to say here
this kind of crime did simply NOT exist until mass migration kicked in, i mean just ask your parents or someone else who is a bit older (but i am sure you know that as well)
from that follows the most obvious conclusion, that the culprits are not germans
another example is the mass occurence of the infamous "grandparent scam" (tricking old people into giving money away), which is committed by gypsy clans from eastern europe
needless to say that this kind of crime has never happened in the past
i already admitted that the afd has problems, still having in mind though that they are new
while the green party has a long history of drugs, pedophilia, many of their members are/were worshippers of ultra leftist figures and communist mass murderes, and they are actively working with the "antifascist" movement, marching on anti-german demonstrations
thats a difference for me
actually both parties should be obsolete
thanks for clearing up what you meant with the CSU candidate
i totally agree
reading your possible solution approaches makes me wonder why we are even mauling eachother :lol:
i want the exact same thing, while i am obviously more critical of migration in general
so what would be a nice start?
perhaps stopping to cover up incidents like the most recent one in berlin, investigate for real and get facts on the table
our politicians do EVERYTHING to prevent that, why?
its not like they provide facts that there is no problem with migrant crime, but pretend to have the higher ground
meanwhile the news are dominated by migrant crime
why would you pretend to be a victim? simple really, because that's the way you try to justify your outrageous statements and positions. you make a completely bigoted bs claim, i call it what it is and then you start to cry and pivot to the good old "all you mean lefties ever do is call us evil names just because we have a DIFFERENT OPINION"...
speaking of bs claims, "this kind of crime did simply NOT exist until mass migration kicked in", "culprits are not germans"?
another one right there. does the name dominik brunner ring a bell? random act of violence at a station, committed by two white christian germans, both blond with your typical german names. not your favourites "thomas and helmut" but sebastian and markus. victim died.
so i guess by your logic that means migrants are responsible for random assault and germans for random manslaughter? i wonder if you're afraid of blond germans and christians now, my bet is you're not...
and what about the NSU terrorists, specifically murdering migrants? guess they don't count as "random" acts of extreme violence?
and then these ridiculous conspiracy theories about politicians trying to "cover up" incidents. now to be fair, i DO acknowledge that officials and press had been very hesitant to release information about the new year attacks for example. they did it not to strenthen the xenophobes any more but i think that doesn't justify not calling the the culprits what they are and not informing the public as well as they should have - and i criticised them for it at the time. not only because it's morally wrong, it's also counter productive. i understand the intentions behind it and the political development in europe certainly shows that they were right about their concern, but it's obviously the completely wrong approach.
but take the berlin incident for example: not only was the police already considering to release the surveillance footage - however, on THEIR terms and in a way that helps the investigation the most. it's also that the act itself, as brutal as it was, would never have made the national news had the criminals been caught and turned out to be some random "thomas and helmut" guys. it just made national news because bigots simply claimed without ANY evidence that the criminals were migrants (which still is pure speculation) and that the police wanted to hide that "fact". there is no coordinated covering up of migrant crimes, it's quite the opposite - thanks to right wing activists and platforms, migrant crimes are ALWAYS covered nationwide and even feed the international right wing press - just to prove how evil ALL of them are. they even get credit for some crimes that weren't committed by migrants at all...
concerning your claim about the investigation of crimes - name just ONE politician, just ONE judge who does "everything to prevent that" from happening - that's yet another one of these completely baseless conspiracy theories amongst you right wingers. there is no evidence for that whatsoever!
so no, i won't call the claim about migrants being responsible for 99.9999% acts of violence "polemic"
i won't call the judging of a group of people without any facts "statistically justified"
and i won't call you seeing a video of refugees and sarcastically calling them engineers and scientists "witty"
i won't call them any of that just because it sounds nicer to you, i call them what they are: bigotry. yes, i see the posts you make here and it really surprises me that you seem to be offended by someone calling you out for it. just because you seem to surround yourself with people who share your radical views (and the internet seems to be a good place for that these days), it doesn't mean reasonable people don't exist anymore...
This post was edited by fender on Dec 11 2016 07:39pm