Wow, two more Yes votes finally. Since my last post.


I wanted to add a few more remarks about my above comments.


If there is a purgatory, it'd probably be exactly like what I went through.

I'm still figuring it out. But it wasn't that, there is no such thing, because JESUS did that.


Above I described hades.

Hell, is much like a black hole. (Which also has black flames.) So much so, that it probably is one.

What is your definition of higher ground?

I'll show you a picture in comparison to the height of the Grand Canyon. If the Grand Canyon gets submerged then EVERYTHING else around the Grand Canyon would have also been submerged. Remember that is is raining to all areas will get flooded.

Perhaps you go by pictures instead of words? Even so, you have yet to explain how they all would have survived the aftermath with no food to eat due to the vegetation being destroyed along with no shelter or beds to sleep in.

Higher than the Grand Canyon (not that the Grand Canyon is relevant, since you still haven't proved that it's formation was down to the flood described in the bible.

Interestingly, the first result on a google search of 'Grand Canyon great flood' yielded this, take a look:

https://ncse.com/blog/2014/09/top-5-creationism-claims-grand-canyon-2-coconino-sandstone-0015881

Oh, so now you're allowed to post links that have no references? No, if you won't accept as evidence any sites that do not have references to outside sources then neither will I accept as evidence any sites that you post which do not have references to outside sources.

Secondly, you stated your definition of higher ground is 'higher than the grand canyon.'

Fact: The Grand Canyon is 2,091m above sea level. I checked in Arizona, where the Grand Canyon is located, what is higher than 2,091m above sea level and lo and behold there are only a handful of mountains that are higher than the Grand Canyon. At this point we go back to the original mountains question that you have raised with your theory. If they went to higher ground, the only higher ground would have been... the mountains!

If everything below the mountains were flooded, how long would it take for the water to subside? Half a year? A few months to be generous? How does everyone live in a small location when surrounded only by water? Let's forego the part where would be no vegetation to eat as they would be living only off water.

All the remaining survivors are stuck together, humans and animals, friendly and wild alike. Do you even know what happens when you are stuck in a large crowd with nowhere to go? Add in the fact there is no food to eat, only water to drink. There is no shelter or beds either. Do you honestly think everybody will live in harmony for the next few months?

I tell you the truth, the wild beasts would have killed and hunted the remaining survivors, be it animals or humans. They all go hungry and kill to eat. The humans, especially the males, would not have been able to spend time alone. They would have fought each other and it would have been total chaos. When they fight this time, they cannot walk away from it all because there is nowhere to go. Living only off water makes you hungry, hungry people are cranky people and cranky people are more prone to fight.

I tell you the truth, even if they survive the flood then they almost certainly would have never survived the aftermath.

This is a rebuttal, not a proposal.

Also, outside references The references you posted were to other creationist 'studies'.

Did you read the points it made? Care to address them?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_elevation

To summarise, populated cities higher in altitude than the Grand Canyon include:

Lhasa
La Paz
Bogota
Sucre
Mexico City
Cusco
Asmara

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcwd_Nz6Zog

I talked to someone in Hollywood! They weren't interested, because they do martial arts movies, but I'm not done. I have 305 working contacts there atm.

;o)

This post was edited by Sylencer on Sep 19 2016 05:22pm

Here, read these two links. Just so you know neither of these are 'blogs' like you posted.
http://www.icr.org/article/coconino-sandstone-flood-or-desert/
http://www.icr.org/nature

As for your second part:

Here is a small calculation that I did, let's see how far apart these cities are from each other.



As you will see, all of these cities are far apart from eachother, excluding Sucre and La Paz which you can basically count as one area.

If all of these areas are the only ones that are in high ground, they have no way to contact each other. Each of these areas are isolated. No way they are going to drive or travel by plane since they didn't have then back then.

Let's also mention the fact that these cities would have been under severe rainfall as well (Even though back then they didn't have all the fancy technology we have now).

So the respective cities are cut off from their supply lines. All the farms have been destroyed by the severe weather. You say they managed to find higher ground within these cities.

Now the major problem becomes food. They only have a limited supply of food and the water still won't subside until after a few months. I know for a fact that the shelves from the supermarkets need to be re-stacked daily, let alone a few months. All the food supplies will run out, everything will be chaotic. Everyone runs to higher ground so the supply demand will be humongous, with no supplies coming in.

Now add to the fact that the wild beasts and animals will go hungry and hunt to kill and eat. How do you stop the elephants, the lions and the wild bears?

I used to watch the news all the time, before I had my experience.

Now, I never watch it.

But I saw there were more terror attacks. Idk the source, but I'd like to repeat something. Americans can be slow nowadays.

The Koran/Quoran (whatever) teaches to kill your enemies, the Bible teaches to love your enemies. They are opposed. Remember 9/11, it came from their instructions, in their book. Not fanatics. That's why there were NINETEEN of them. (So, where did their book(s) come from then? It's obvious enough for a 3 year-old to guess that. And, is this the first time that you've realized that? Also, do you now understand the situation better?)

I hope so.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51iquRYKPbs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScNNfyq3d_w



This post was edited by Sylencer on Sep 19 2016 11:50pm

omg there was a flood ? omg that's so amazing! mind blowing! my life was completely torn apart! ravaged even!

or not

This post was edited by the_rest on Sep 20 2016 01:13am

Jsp, thank-you for letting me put my story here, and letting me use my First Amendment.

I appreciate it.

I try my best to be decent at all times, but I am not a push-over.


I've also made a lot of trades here too. Made my best Sorc ever, 23 Perfects!

I'm not planning on going away anytime soon, I just wanted to say


Thanks.

:o)


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMOIUUS8GWo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEFa1f_WCms


This post was edited by Sylencer on Sep 20 2016 04:38pm