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May 29 2016 05:41am
Quote (BebebBurns @ May 29 2016 09:27pm)
do you regulations laws and god depicted in old testament and how do you choose which to pick


The old testament is a specific set of laws set out for the jews so that they could survive exile, why would it apply to me?
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May 29 2016 05:49am
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I love how all these closed minded idiots preach about how there are no interpretations of the bible, only fact that homosexuality is a sin and wrong, yet there's a fuck ton of shit in the bible they ignore daily

Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material. Leviticus 19:19
Ye shall not round the corners of your heads. Leviticus 19:27
All that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you. Leviticus 9:10
Thou shalt not boil a kid in its mother's milk. Exodus 23:19
“If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house. You must purge the evil from among you.” Deuteronomy 22:20-21
If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die. Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If a man has sex with an animal, he must be put to death, and the animal must be killed. Leviticus 20:15 NLT

You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. Ephesians 6:5 NLT

Now shut the fuck up and move on



That last one is one of my favourite scriptures.

'Morality comes from the bible', get the fuck outta here :D
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May 29 2016 06:06am
Quote (GetOnYourKnees @ May 29 2016 10:49pm)
That last one is one of my favourite scriptures.

'Morality comes from the bible', get the fuck outta here :D


The old testament was a book specific to the jewish people of its time, it was a manual for how to survive exile, and it worked.
Jesus brought a new testament for all christians.
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May 29 2016 06:29am
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 29 2016 10:06pm)
The old testament was a book specific to the jewish people of its time, it was a manual for how to survive exile, and it worked.
Jesus brought a new testament for all christians.


Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 16:17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one dot of the Law to become void.

The fact of the matter is that all mainstream Christian groups affirm both the Old and New Testament as canon. The Church fought off any attempts to “throw away the Old Testament”. In the second century of Christianity, Marcion of Sinope rejected the Old Testament because of the violence, war atrocities, and genocide contained therein. He was denounced by the Church, and his views towards the Old Testament were officially damned as heresy. Tertullian, the Father of Western Christianity, issued a rebuttal against Marcion.

Marcionism. Marcionism owed its existence to Marcion, an individual who gained popularity in Rome in 140-144. His theology was influenced heavily by the Gnostics, and he denied the power of the God of the Old Testament. He promulgated the use of a limited form of the New Testament, including Luke’s Gospel and Acts, and many of the Pauline epistles, the former since Luke was a Gentile and the latter since he was sent to preach to the Gentiles. He found the God of the Old Testament contradictory and inhumane. The “orthodox” Christianity of the time rejected his argumentation, upheld the value of the Old Testament, and dutifully began the work of canonization of the Old and New Testaments. The specter of Marcion loomed large enough so as to merit refutation by Tertullian at the end of the second century; nevertheless, Marcion’s movement mostly died out or assimilated into other Gnostic groups.



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Matthew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 16:17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for one dot of the Law to become void.

The fact of the matter is that all mainstream Christian groups affirm both the Old and New Testament as canon. The Church fought off any attempts to “throw away the Old Testament”. In the second century of Christianity, Marcion of Sinope rejected the Old Testament because of the violence, war atrocities, and genocide contained therein. He was denounced by the Church, and his views towards the Old Testament were officially damned as heresy. Tertullian, the Father of Western Christianity, issued a rebuttal against Marcion.

Marcionism. Marcionism owed its existence to Marcion, an individual who gained popularity in Rome in 140-144. His theology was influenced heavily by the Gnostics, and he denied the power of the God of the Old Testament. He promulgated the use of a limited form of the New Testament, including Luke’s Gospel and Acts, and many of the Pauline epistles, the former since Luke was a Gentile and the latter since he was sent to preach to the Gentiles. He found the God of the Old Testament contradictory and inhumane. The “orthodox” Christianity of the time rejected his argumentation, upheld the value of the Old Testament, and dutifully began the work of canonization of the Old and New Testaments. The specter of Marcion loomed large enough so as to merit refutation by Tertullian at the end of the second century; nevertheless, Marcion’s movement mostly died out or assimilated into other Gnostic groups.


You are talking of men, i am talking of god, naturally confusion will arise.
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May 29 2016 06:36am
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You are talking of men, i am talking of god, naturally confusion will arise.


You claim your new testament is seperate from the old one, yet the new testament pretty much says the old one is still law and should be followed, according to jesus.
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May 29 2016 06:37am
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You claim your new testament is seperate from the old one, yet the new testament pretty much says the old one is still law and should be followed, according to jesus.


For the jewish people correct.
In fact the old testament affirms it continuously.
Hell here's a convenient one posted repetitively.

You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT
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May 29 2016 06:37am
Quote (WiseBlood @ May 29 2016 08:36am)
You claim your new testament is seperate from the old one, yet the new testament pretty much says the old one is still law and should be followed, according to jesus.


...you have no idea what you are talking about .
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May 29 2016 06:38am
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You claim your new testament is seperate from the old one, yet the new testament pretty much says the old one is still law and should be followed, according to jesus.


Leviticus 20:13
"'If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

sounds like a death sentence ?


Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ 29 May 2016 13:37)
...you have no idea what you are talking about .


you cheched his post ?
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=74465623&f=119&p=503643898

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 29 2016 06:39am
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May 29 2016 06:49am
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 29 2016 07:37am)
For the jewish people correct.
In fact the old testament affirms it continuously.
Hell here's a convenient one posted repetitively.

You may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT


Yo kangaroo! You going to play the new league in PoE?
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