Whatever you call Grievous Bodily Harm in the states. It's a significant injury and there is the intent to cause physical harm.

Cop or civilian I view it in the same manner, a blue costume doesn't grant special rights or another moral compass to operate on. A cop would be compelled to remedy the situation, but after disengagement and walking away the officer is still not justified running the kid down in his car.I demand a higher standard of police then I do citizens.



During robberies there is a clear and present threat, after they walk out the door fleeing the crime scene, it's no longer that.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on May 22 2016 12:57pm

If a store clerk chased a guy down the street and cornered the robber and then shot him in the back i wouldnt laude him

I even agree that a blue costume doesn't grant special rights, but most of the members of this forum do, but my question was more along the lines of what recourse does a person have. If a cop would have been in the right to remedy the situation, why isn't a citizen?

They aren't trained to remedy the situation to avoid unfavourable outcomes. Pretty obvious...

I'm not a police, nor play one on TV, but by remedy I'd expect the officer to exit his car while drawing his wep and keeping his car door as cover and loudly announce to the shoebandit to get down on the ground with his hands in the air. If the kid then went to pull his gun, lethal force is then justified. If he tried to flee, then he could attempt to follow, or just call for policing to find him via some detective stuff, like showing up at the kids house after tracking him down via the Craigslist or cameras.

As a citizen you don't have those options per say, and your right to self defense ends when you are no longer in harm's way.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on May 22 2016 01:31pm

...the follow up assault with a motor vehicle was uncalled for and even dangerous to others . I'm entertaining the idea that 5 years in prison should be the minimum .

to be fair even police aren't properly trained to remedy such situations, remember they did a drive by shooting on a 12 year old with a toy gun?

Well they should be, that's your problem as a society. That culture is not present in other civilised countries