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Sep 26 2015 04:26pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 26 2015 05:17pm)
you can't just go around screwing shit up in other countries then ask why they're fleeing the places you've messed up


Lol. Let's all pretend without Western intervention the Middle East wouldn't be the most chaotic region in the world.

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Sep 26 2015 04:43pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 26 2015 11:17pm)
you can't just go around screwing shit up in other countries then ask why they're fleeing the places you've messed up


True, but most of the migrants aren't from Syria or Libya.
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Sep 26 2015 05:47pm
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Lol. Let's all pretend without Western intervention the Middle East wouldn't be the most chaotic region in the world.


Wouldn't be nearly as bad. Deposing elected secular leaders and instituting religious radicals worked so well for Iran.
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Sep 26 2015 05:54pm
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Wouldn't be nearly as bad. Deposing elected secular leaders and instituting religious radicals worked so well for Iran.


don't think that was ever mentioned on fox news so he wouldn't be aware of it
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Sep 26 2015 05:56pm
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Wouldn't be nearly as bad. Deposing elected secular leaders and instituting religious radicals worked so well for Iran.


You have no reason to believe that, because it has never happened. The Middle East would be a shitshow if America wasn't involved.
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Sep 26 2015 06:00pm
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You have no reason to believe that, because it has never happened. The Middle East would be a shitshow if America wasn't involved.


It happened in 1953 because the old leader wouldn't sell us oil. We instituted a new leader who only stayed in power thanks to our support.
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Sep 26 2015 06:11pm
Quote (IceMage @ Sep 26 2015 06:56pm)
You have no reason to believe that, because it has never happened. The Middle East would be a shitshow if America wasn't involved.


Google it...
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Sep 26 2015 06:16pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 26 2015 07:00pm)
It happened in 1953 because the old leader wouldn't sell us oil. We instituted a new leader who only stayed in power thanks to our support.


You have no evidence that a lack of Western influence would be better, because it has never happened.

The Middle East continues to be chaotic with or without our intervention. The Obama experiment has failed.
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Sep 26 2015 06:16pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 26 2015 06:11pm)
Google it...


Historical knowledge isn't a strong trait of conservatives. If it were there would be much fewer conservatives.
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Sep 26 2015 06:18pm
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You have no evidence that a lack of Western influence would be better, because it has never happened.

The Middle East continues to be chaotic with or without our intervention. The Obama experiment has failed.


Because we have every reason to think that replacing peaceful elected leaders with radical war mongers totally promotes peace. Think about what you are saying dumbass.

If we pull out now it's not the same since destabilizing a region and leaving behind a power vacuum isn't a recipe for peace. The effects of our influence will be felt for hundreds of years

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Sep 26 2015 06:19pm
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