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Jun 19 2018 01:17am
Quote (PresidentDonaldTrump @ Jun 19 2018 02:12am)
I am the best President this country will ever have and people don't even realize it.
Sad.


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Jun 19 2018 01:38am
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Jun 19 2018 04:01am
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 18 2018 07:25pm)
I'm conflicted on this.

It's a given that Trump and some of his officials are lying about the issue. That's just what they do... they lie every single day, all the time, and the idiots who support him don't care.

That said, I'm not entirely sympathetic towards the families who are separated after illegally entering our country. This does serve as a deterrent... and treating illegal crossers as criminals, and thereby separating them from their kids, makes more sense than building some expensive wall.

The images of kids being separated from their parents is tough, but seems to me to be an acceptable collateral damage in pursuit of a legitimate end. Don't come to our country illegally, stay in your own countries and help to move them forward.


The families are literally only being separated because the Democratic 9th circuit changed the law so that it had to separate families.

Its all a Democratic media stunt.

Washington Post Fact-Check:

Drumpf is Bad!
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Jun 19 2018 04:54am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 19 2018 05:01am)
The families are literally only being separated because the Democratic 9th circuit changed the law so that it had to separate families.

Its all a Democratic media stunt.

Washington Post Fact-Check:

Drumpf is Bad!



Til courts can change laws.
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Jun 19 2018 06:18am
always kinda cute how nowadays everyone is to blame except those who caused the trouble in the first place
i feel sorry for the children, but its the fault of their idiot parents, who fail miserably at building a functioning society in their home countries, take the easy way out and violate the law of a foreign nation
that does not stop them and their supporters from making demands though

Quote (Ghot @ 19 Jun 2018 01:30)
I think the smartest solution would be to not let any of them in. Now that the parents are in jail, for breaking US laws. The kids will either have to be deported or allowed into the US.
Allowing them into the US would have to count as yet another way to bypass the immigration laws.

I think the US should deal with anyone wanting to immigrate or seek asylum, outside the US borders. it seems to me to be the only workable solution.


sending these people to jail is a huge waste of resources and money, protect the border and tell them to fuck off
its actually extra incentive to come, because there might be a chance that you can get out of there

Quote (IceMage @ 19 Jun 2018 01:25)
Don't come to our country illegally, stay in your own countries and help to move them forward.


amen

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Jun 19 2018 06:20am
Quote (ampoo @ Jun 19 2018 12:18pm)
always kinda cute how nowadays everyone is to blame except those who caused the trouble in the first place
i feel sorry for the children, but its the fault of their idiot parents, who fail miserably at building a functioning society in their home countries, take the easy way out and violate the law of a foreign nation
that does not stop them and their supporters from making demands though



sending these people to jail is a huge waste of resources and money, protect the border and tell them to fuck off
its actually extra incentive to come, because there might be a chance that you can get out of there



amen


With America's overturning of many Central and South American countries' governments for the worse I'd say this is fully deserved.

I do agree that if you don't want these scenes, you'd need to process asylum applicants fast and efficiently. But that would require funding, training of professionals etc.
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Jun 19 2018 06:23am
Quote (balrog66 @ 19 Jun 2018 14:20)
With America's overturning of many Central and South American countries' governments for the worse I'd say this is fully deserved.

I do agree that if you don't want these scenes, you'd need to process asylum applicants fast and efficiently. But that would require funding, training of professionals etc.


fair point, but thats another discussion and the trump administration cant be blamed for that or for enforcing existing law (literally hitler)
with that argument germany could put all these syrians and iraqi people on ships and send them to the us :p
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Jun 19 2018 06:30am
Quote (Mastersam93 @ Jun 19 2018 06:54am)
Til courts can change laws.


Triggered by facts

Scotus just made a ruling about the cake bakery last week

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Jun 19 2018 06:31am
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Jun 19 2018 06:41am
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/06/18/myth-vs-fact-dhs-zero-tolerance-policy

Whenever it takes 10 pages to debunks myths spread in 10 words, you're losing.
DHS and HHS aren't going to be able to protect themselves from this artificially constructed political shitstorm with rational facts and logic when the media can form lynch mobs.
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Jun 19 2018 06:42am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 19 2018 07:30am)
Triggered by facts

Scotus just made a ruling about the cake bakery last week



That’s not them making a law. I’m not sure you understand what the Supreme Court does or why they ruled in favor of the baker.
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