Quote (AspenSniper @ Apr 14 2015 03:13pm)
I'll try to answer 1 by 1 on this...
- The problem is that not everyone has ambition to do that, hence why we don't all have nice homes and cars, only those who work to constantly better themselves do. Of course there are exceptions due to illness and disability. I think people often have a vision of a "hard worker" as a blue collar worker busting his ass day in-day out. I view that person as noble, but naïve. If that doesn't pay what you want it to, grow your skill set and learn a new trade that pays more money.
- There certainly would be enough jobs to fill thousands of engineering majors. However, I think what you're saying is that if there was too much supply of engineers, there wouldn't be the demand to have them paid well. It would take a lot to get there, but then I'd recommend other majors in other growing fields. Or if you're a true engineer, create your own product.
- I did have student loans and I did live at home. I purposely lived at home til I was 22 even though it wasn't the most fun. I worked 40 hours+ per week during my bachelors degree, and applied to a ton of scholarships. I had almost no debt by the time I graduated because of how frugal I was for 4 years. Then I got my MBA right after, which was just $20,000 and I paid that in full within a year as I worked a 8-5 job making $35k a year and saved almost all of it and went to school from 6:00-9:00 4 nights per week for 2 years. If I was not as fortunate to be able to live at home, I'd have rented a room in a house which can be as cheap as $400/month and i'd still only have had maybe $10-15,000 in student loans, which is basically a car payment. I certainly understand the concept of not having anything given to you, and making it work anyways.
- Your point of not being able to move because you have no money is laughable. I can get from Maryland to California for $100 if I really wanted to if I just waited for some Greyhound bus ticket specials or southwest airline specials. Moving for better work is way easier than people think. They just don't want to leave their family and friends most of the time, neither would I.
- The worst point you made is that there are not enough jobs available to graduates. That is not true at all. I assist at a local college helping students find careers. We work with a handful of recruiters whose soul purpose is to fit people into careers. I have an incredibly high success rate at placing students into careers. It's up to them to take the plunge. I cannot explain how many students get a $30-35k/year job offer and say no because of reasons like "the commute is too far" "i just don't like Baltimore" "i don't know if I could handle a job doing _____" "i really would prefer to do ____." I hear it all day. I always advise them to deal with the rough commute, a city you don't love, a field you aren't passionate about, etc., until they find something better. It's not like once you get a job you're stuck forever, you can still keep applying and keep interviewing. A social work degree can still land you a $30k+ a year career easily in a business related field. Just gotta keep applying and keep interviewing. I show students all the time how to burn through 100-150 applications a DAY. One day you can easily do 100+ job applications. CareerBuilder and others have tools that all you do is click a button and it shoots off your resume. I did that when I graduated and got 7 job offers all $30k+ a year within 3 weeks of graduation, and that was with a political science degree.
so first bolded point about purposely living at home not all people have that option. I didnt get along with my mom and was booted out of my house at age 19 and im not alone in that many other people have had to endure that and worse so obv arent able to save up all that money to go to school and pay back debts right? you said you paid back 20k loan in 1 year thats real good for you anybody can do that living at home while working a full time job. the fact that you think all you have to do is pay for room board and food and only spend 400$ a month and 175 on food is laughable even a single person living on their own will spend easily 50$ a week and thats by scraping by your philosophy will result in severe malnoursihment of an individual. also room and board pricing varies per area. i can assure you there is nowhere in my area that will rent a room out to you for 400$ a month. Im pretty sure my point about their not being enough jobs is a fact. if 10,000 police officers,5000 engineers,5000 teachers all graduated at same time you would have to be delusional to think they are all gonna find work immediately. hence why people are forced to go back to school for something their is a demand for which is changing all the time. now you say you can get to maryland for 100$ still to some people that is alot of money and you already broke down your budget before which doesnt allow for that extra spending lol and id like to see you fit all your furniture and possesions onto a greyhand and still accomplish that feat for 100$.All this is making so much more sense now that we know you live at home. so easy for people like you to comment on this when you never had to go through any hardships. im sure if you lived on your own while having to work and survive at same time you would understand better . Shit i can easily upload and hand my resume/job application out to 200 jobs a day, does not mean im qualified or will get it and btw 30k a year is still living in poverty btw so dont go talking like its alot of money.