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Mar 12 2015 09:05am
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 12 2015 08:47am)
Alexander was Persian. But that statement is still correct. He just adored the Greeks so much he stole their culture and spread it to the world.


:rofl:

Wow, stop posting.
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Mar 12 2015 09:07am
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:rofl:

Wow, stop posting.


wait if youre here who is posting "stupid monkeys" on all of the racist youtube video comments?
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Mar 12 2015 10:47am
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 12 2015 10:01am)
oops meant Macedonian. although he was ruler of Macedon, Persia, and Egypt.

One could argue i suppose that Macedon was greek before Alexander but i dont think thats correct syntax. Macedon was a subservient slave state to the greeks previous to phillip's reign and alexander expounded on its power exponentially by further reigning in hill clans not at all subject to greek rule. It was only after alexanders power was established that the greeks bowed to him and he took on a greek set of counselors. A few of his lifelong friends were greek but the mostly came from city states paying homage to phillip with hostages.

History of this time period was written by the greeks and they put there stamp on everything they could, i do have a very interresting bio on Alexander if anyone is interested, but its rather dry reading, mostly just comparing secondary sources to find out which ones are accurate and which ones were written to garner favor.


Macedon was definitely Greek. We can't think of the Greeks as just people from Attica and Morea.
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Mar 12 2015 10:51am
Quote (Caedus @ Mar 12 2015 11:47am)
Macedon was definitely Greek. We can't think of the Greeks as just people from Attica and Morea.


Many of the Greeks resented being ruled by Philip because he was a backwoods Macedonian. There was distinction prior to Alexander, but Alexander was Great and in Hellenism Macedonian and Greek were kin.

I'm probably not telling you anything new here though :lol:
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Mar 12 2015 10:58am
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Many of the Greeks resented being ruled by Philip because he was a backwoods Macedonian. There was distinction prior to Alexander, but Alexander was Great and in Hellenism Macedonian and Greek were kin.

I'm probably not telling you anything new here though :lol:


That's the same from almost every country. There's a part of the homeland that isn't quite as well thought of as the rest. In the UK it used to be the Scottish Highlands. In the Netherlands it was Friesland. In Japan you have the Ryuku Islands and Hokkaido.

Athens was civilization and their kin to the north were barbarians. Well the jokes on them, when people think of great Greek leaders we think of Alexander of Macedon and Pyrrhus of Epirus, two Greeks from the "uncivilized" part of Greece.
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Mar 12 2015 11:03am
Quote (Caedus @ Mar 12 2015 10:47am)
Macedon was definitely Greek. We can't think of the Greeks as just people from Attica and Morea.


geographically i can agree. however in the time of Alexander i dont think anyone could argue that Macedon was Greek in nature. it was a barbarian state that was extremely weak before phillip.

phillip expounded on the rule of previous kings in a way that finally made Macedon relevant in the Aegean but i would contend that Greece only aligned with Alexander out of necessity.
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Mar 12 2015 11:10am
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wait if youre here who is posting "stupid monkeys" on all of the racist youtube video comments?


I have two monitors.
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Mar 12 2015 11:23am
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I have two monitors.


And 1337 hax
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Mar 12 2015 11:24am
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And 1337 hax


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Mar 12 2015 11:28am
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Don't tell mum


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