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Mar 7 2015 02:44pm
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who's crying? - Your allowed to laugh at anything you want. Just means i wouldn't sit and have a beer with you.
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Mar 7 2015 02:49pm
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A lot of our philosophical values come from ancient Greece so I don't think time is necessarily a factor here. If you get it right, it doesn't matter how old it is. If you take a look at the parables of Jesus, you'd see that you're supposed to look at the overall lessons being taught. Much of that can be applied to everyday life.


It is true that the ancient Greeks found nothing wrong with treating a slave like a slave and that Man-Boy love is permissible as long as there isn't excessive penetration.

Are you citing the right people as the foundation of Christian morality? The Greeks were insane in many ways but they definitely had pro-life values. They valued strength, power, beauty, self-interest.....Christians value mercy, asceticism, meekness, and selflessness. The Greeks and the Christians are opposites in terms of values. The only thing they had in common is the Platonist idea that there is a perfect world outside of the material.
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Mar 7 2015 02:57pm
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It is true that the ancient Greeks found nothing wrong with treating a slave like a slave and that Man-Boy love is permissible as long as there isn't excessive penetration.

Are you citing the right people as the foundation of Christian morality? The Greeks were insane in many ways but they definitely had pro-life values. They valued strength, power, beauty, self-interest.....Christians value mercy, asceticism, meekness, and selflessness. The Greeks and the Christians are opposites in terms of values. The only thing they had in common is the Platonist idea that there is a perfect world outside of the material.


I'm wondering if this was done, like when I'm countersinking with a drill I'll use a piece of electrical tape to mark the right depth....
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Mar 7 2015 03:02pm
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It is true that the ancient Greeks found nothing wrong with treating a slave like a slave and that Man-Boy love is permissible as long as there isn't excessive penetration.

Are you citing the right people as the foundation of Christian morality? The Greeks were insane in many ways but they definitely had pro-life values. They valued strength, power, beauty, self-interest.....Christians value mercy, asceticism, meekness, and selflessness. The Greeks and the Christians are opposites in terms of values. The only thing they had in common is the Platonist idea that there is a perfect world outside of the material.


I was referring to democracy in Athens...
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Mar 7 2015 03:03pm
What ?
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Mar 7 2015 03:09pm
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I was referring to democracy in Athens...


They enjoyed a good war too.
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Mar 7 2015 03:14pm
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They enjoyed a good war too.


My point is that quite a few of the principles that our government abides by come from ancient thought. Just because it's old doesn't make it invalid.
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Mar 7 2015 04:09pm
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 7 2015 12:39pm)
Fractally incorrect. What OP said is retarded. If white people like him didn't perceive the value of their house going down when a black guy moves in next door, then none of that is true. It is only true because of slavery in the beginning, having two-tiers of citizenship from Plessy v Ferguson until 1964, and red lining in American suburbs ever since.

If any of it is true it is because it is a self-fulfilling prophecy predicted and executed by people whose hearts and souls are full of feces. Godless swine merchants.


Probably 1954.
But what OP said is both true and false. It's unfortunate that liberal social welfare programs AND the left-wing destruction of the family, and virtual removal of the father from the family, are the primary reasons poverty has no chance of decreasing below 11 or 10%, because as we all know, it's minority poverty rates that drive the overall poverty rate, considering they constitute the majority of those living in poverty, they are also the ones who use government benefits with the purpose of living on them, and they are the ones who who don't have stable families and fathers, and the federal government is saying they don't give a shit about their family. Even if unemployment is at or near zero, or in the 3s or 4s as its been a few times, most recently 1999 or so, the poverty rate will continue to stay at 10%.

Mitt Romney was wrong. The 47% are not the problem. It's the 10%. And it's because of liberal economic and social policy.
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Mar 7 2015 04:24pm
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Probably 1954.
But what OP said is both true and false. It's unfortunate that liberal social welfare programs AND the left-wing destruction of the family, and virtual removal of the father from the family, are the primary reasons poverty has no chance of decreasing below 11 or 10%, because as we all know, it's minority poverty rates that drive the overall poverty rate, considering they constitute the majority of those living in poverty, they are also the ones who use government benefits with the purpose of living on them, and they are the ones who who don't have stable families and fathers, and the federal government is saying they don't give a shit about their family. Even if unemployment is at or near zero, or in the 3s or 4s as its been a few times, most recently 1999 or so, the poverty rate will continue to stay at 10%.

Mitt Romney was wrong. The 47% are not the problem. It's the 10%. And it's because of liberal economic and social policy.


what solution do you propose?
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Mar 7 2015 04:30pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Mar 7 2015 02:24pm)
what solution do you propose?


Getting black women to marry whites and Asians.
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