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Jan 10 2015 07:13pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Jan 10 2015 07:51pm)
Also to clarify, because I just realized this implied otherwise, I did read the quotes in the OP as well as several other posts, and I have put a good deal of thought into this issue.  At the end of the day it just sits wrong with me for no particular reason, hence my previous comment.


you put a good deal of thought into it and couldn't find any reason to say it's wrong?
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lethal bullet injection in head ... -_-
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Quote (duffman316 @ Jan 10 2015 07:50pm)
there's money to be made off every little thing in life

hmmh... they really should bring back gladiator fights
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Jan 10 2015 09:57pm
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hmmh... they really should bring back gladiator fights


i would pay top dollar for this :o
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Jan 11 2015 12:52am
Quote (duffman316 @ Jan 10 2015 06:13pm)
you put a good deal of thought into it and couldn't find any reason to say it's wrong?


I can list a lot of reasons other people say it's wrong, but I don't think it's wrong for any of those reasons.
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Jan 11 2015 05:35am
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I can list a lot of reasons other people say it's wrong, but I don't think it's wrong for any of those reasons.



this is a poll you don't have to supply a reason

there is shit that has affected the way I view certain questions, that I have definite yes or no feelings on but I couldn't voice just one or two things that made me think that way.

sometimes it's just how life has played out
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Jan 11 2015 10:46am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Jan 11 2015 01:52am)
I can list a lot of reasons other people say it's wrong, but I don't think it's wrong for any of those reasons.


i can think of many reasons to support and oppose it but the one reason i have no counter argument to is the risk of accidentally sending an innocent man to death

i support the concept of the death penalty but i'm opposed to implementing it because of this
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Jan 11 2015 10:54am
If there is zero doubt about guilt I can sorta support it but it still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, like we're not civilised enough as society yet to do away with this type of punishment. I feel similar about torture.
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Jan 11 2015 02:14pm
If it's an offense proven beyond absolute doubt, then yes, i.e. caught on camera with DNA evidence, witnesses and zero doubt of false identification, AKA caught red-handed.

If it's proven beyond reasonable doubt (enough to get a conviction), then no, regardless of overwhelming evidence, as long as there is any doubt, even if it would not normally be considered reasonable in criminal court (i.e. DNA evidence (which can be inconclusive) and a few eye-witnesses, but unsure if there could have been false identification because it was dark).
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Jan 11 2015 04:49pm
Quote (madeinchinars @ Jan 11 2015 02:14pm)
If it's an offense proven beyond absolute doubt, then yes, i.e. caught on camera with DNA evidence, witnesses and zero doubt of false identification, AKA caught red-handed.

If it's proven beyond reasonable doubt (enough to get a conviction), then no, regardless of overwhelming evidence, as long as there is any doubt, even if it would not normally be considered reasonable in criminal court (i.e. DNA evidence (which can be inconclusive) and a few eye-witnesses, but unsure if there could have been false identification because it was dark).


the idea of a world where cameras are everywhere adds an interesting flavor to the death penalty argument.

Think of the Charlie incedent in Paris, everyone saw that guy execute the cop, 20 years ago it would have all been witness testimony and heresay.
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