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Sep 9 2014 11:40pm
Quote (thundercock @ Sep 10 2014 01:25am)
Oh cool, maybe we can squelch Zeitgeist and Infowars then...


Zeitgeist doesn't donate to or have a political agenda...so the law wouldn't apply...




infowars is Alex Jones crackpots giving him money and attention he desperately seeks, if someone would shut him up perhaps people would take seriously the messages he corrupts with nuttery
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Sep 10 2014 12:25am
Quote (bitg_pj @ Sep 9 2014 09:40pm)
Zeitgeist doesn't donate to or have a political agenda...so the law wouldn't apply...




infowars is Alex Jones crackpots giving him money and attention he desperately seeks, if someone would shut him up perhaps people would take seriously the messages he corrupts with nuttery


Uh....
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Sep 10 2014 12:28am
Quote (nobrow @ Sep 10 2014 12:33am)
I have no problem with restricting those groups from running attack ads on candidates. It's one thing for them to advertise trying to promote their interests in a general way and something entirely different to single out an individual candidate.

Charles Koch is welcome to spend as much of his money as he wants to attacking politicians but he should have to do it as an individual. Groups/organizations/unions/corporations aren't individuals.


Koch is a private corporation, the funds belong to the Koch family, and they spend it as individuals.
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Sep 10 2014 01:04am
We're going to have shit politicians until we get the money out of politics. I think this is an excellent first step.
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Sep 10 2014 01:08am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Sep 9 2014 11:04pm)
We're going to have shit politicians until we get the money out of politics.  I think this is an excellent first step.


There will ALWAYS be money in politics because government makes laws and levies taxes. The only way to get money out of politics is to have a libertarian government that only deals with courts, doesn't provide services, etc.
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Sep 10 2014 01:19am
Quote (thundercock @ Sep 10 2014 07:08am)
There will ALWAYS be money in politics because government makes laws and levies taxes. The only way to get money out of politics is to have a libertarian government that only deals with courts, doesn't provide services, etc.


But it is possible to restrict the amount of influence money can buy you.
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Sep 10 2014 01:23am
Quote (thundercock @ Sep 10 2014 12:08am)
There will ALWAYS be money in politics because government makes laws and levies taxes. The only way to get money out of politics is to have a libertarian government that only deals with courts, doesn't provide services, etc.


Government will DEAL with money, that doesn't mean they'll be GIVEN tons of money.
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Sep 10 2014 01:27am
...the founding fathers believed political power should reside in the hands of white , male landowners . Never use a Constitutional intent argument to oppose money in politics because our government was designed for the more affluent class .
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Sep 10 2014 05:32am
Quote (nobrow @ Sep 9 2014 10:52pm)
I fail to see how campaign donation limits restrict free speech.


Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 9 2014 10:59pm)
seems to be a limit on monetary influence, not free speech


" including by prohibiting such entities from spending money to influence elections."
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Sep 10 2014 06:19am
Wtf.. every single non patriotic fuck that has an important, higher up role in the government needs to get fired. Sometimes I feel like they don't give a shit about the people of this country. All they look forward to is their paycheck and going home at 4pm
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