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Aug 5 2014 08:17pm
Quote (Santara @ Aug 5 2014 08:12pm)
If you...

Really? Do you think about what you type? Or are you just trying to imagine the most impossible scenario possible, bait an answer, and then assume that it makes the entire rest of your point axiomatic? Are you trying to assert that a 13th amendment cannot exist in a laissez-faire economy?

Physician-assisted suicide?


If you're actually in favor of laissez-faire economy you wouldn't ban voluntary slavery. Why do you hate freedom? I'm just getting a glaring example of how you're ignoring the logical conclusions of your position when it's inconvenient, like you pretty much always do.

There's no point in answering a wholly off topic question so you can just keep deflecting. Good try though.

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Aug 5 2014 08:20pm
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If you're actually in favor of laissez-faire economy you wouldn't ban voluntary slavery.  Why do you hate freedom?  I'm just getting a glaring example of how you're ignoring the logical conclusions of your position when it's inconvenient, like you pretty much always do.

There's no point in answering a wholly off topic question so you can just keep deflecting.  Good try though.


No true Scotsman. I never have advocated complete anarchy, yet that is the position you're ascribing to me ITT and then arguing against it. We call that part straw manning.

No point in illustrating your own inconsistencies with an argument you're trying to use against me? Well no shit you aren't answering.

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Aug 5 2014 08:26pm
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No true Scotsman. I never have advocated complete anarchy, yet that is the position you're ascribing to me ITT and then arguing against it. We call that part straw manning.

No point in illustrating your own inconsistencies with an argument you're trying to use against me? Well no shit you aren't answering.


Just ignore him, he's not going to contribute anything to the topic.
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No true Scotsman. I never have advocated complete anarchy, yet that is the position you're ascribing to me ITT and then arguing against it. We call that part straw manning.

No point in illustrating your own inconsistencies with an argument you're trying to use against me? Well no shit you aren't answering.


Why do you hate voluntary transactions? Why shouldn't I be able to sign myself into slavery if it's a willfully entered into contract?

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Just ignore him, he's not going to contribute anything to the topic.


Probably because there's barely anything to discuss here....

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Aug 5 2014 08:29pm
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Just ignore him, he's not going to contribute anything to the topic.


Oh, he's perfectly capable if he wanted to. Still kinda wondering what critiques of laissez-faire you're looking to see defended.

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Why do you hate voluntary transactions?  Why shouldn't I be able to sign myself into slavery if it's a willfully entered into contract?


Why do I hate the freedom to kill freedom...

Contract law is not the highest law of the land.
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Aug 5 2014 08:33pm
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Oh, he's perfectly capable if he wanted to. Still kinda wondering what critiques of laissez-faire you're looking to see defended.



Why do I hate the freedom to kill freedom...

Contract law is not the highest law of the land.


Do you, at any point, have the right to take your own life?
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Do you, at any point, have the right to take your own life?


You won't answer my questions...
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Aug 5 2014 08:35pm
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You won't answer my questions...


Because they're off topic....
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Because they're off topic....


As are yours, for previously noted reasons.





Moving on, I'll check back for the critiques tomorrow. I'm sleepy and 5 AM always comes early.
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Why do you hate voluntary transactions?  Why shouldn't I be able to sign myself into slavery if it's a willfully entered into contract?



Probably because there's barely anything to discuss here....


Rothbard offers a rather detailed contract theory regarding your concerns about slavery here:
http://mises.org/rothbard/ethics/nineteen.asp

The general idea is that you should be free to offer your labor, but shouldn't be coerced into compulsive slavery if you change your mind.
Much like a person who promises to marry someone can break that promise and isn't forced to follow through with it, or a person who has a job contract for a set number of years can still quit.
Theres also a bit about control of your mind and body being inalienable, even if wish it could be given away.
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