once upon a time Americans would have rather died then paid a tax on tea which they had no say in. oh how far weve fallen




This post was edited by Ylem122 on Jul 23 2014 01:01am

Well, seems that Gaza got the dying part correct. The colonial model doesn't really apply to Gaza though, because, you know, Israel isn't going anywhere. You can't really drive Israel out.

"he who becomes master of a city accustomed to freedom and does not destroy it, may expect to be destroyed by it, for in rebellion it has always the watch-word of liberty and its ancient privileges as a rallying point, which neither time nor benefits will ever cause it to forget. And what ever you may do or provide against, they never forget that name or their privileges unless they are disunited or dispersed but at every chance they immediately rally to them" - Nicolo Machiavelli


as long as the palastine terratories exist as occupied by isreal there will never be peace and any investment into gaza or palastine terratories with out sovereignty is a waste of money.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Jul 23 2014 01:03am

Really? Building hospitals and schools are a waste of money? Also, Israel hasn't occupied Gaza for like a decade now.

with out sovereignty, it is a waste. might as well give it straight to isreal.


with out some semblance of freedom and liberty there will only be the ruin of the palastines or the destruction of isreal, per Nicolo Machiavelli

and even then, if it is not true freedom, the peace will only ever be temporary.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Jul 23 2014 01:10am

we slaughtered millions of natives idk how we are diffrent

the natives that are left seem to not be lobbing bombs but ok

This post was edited by southpark247 on Jul 23 2014 01:21am

when you excuse your actions with the genocide of the native americans you are saying you are no better than people who killed millions of native americans.



the natives that are left number about 1 million, to these 1 million native americans we have given limited soverignty and 88,000 square miles of land.

keep in mind that isreal is 8,000 square miles while America has given the native Americans 88,000 square miles of land.


if isreal offered sovereignty and the 1967 lines, a gesture hardly comparable to what weve given the native americans in restitution, wed see peace.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Jul 23 2014 01:28am

I think once Hamas will be disarm from his weapons the Palestines and the Israelis could live in peace .
They could have an harbor , they could use the Israeli airport , Gaza will rebuild and raise from the Hamas grip.
but that all nice in theory , theres lots of citizens who only want war just like in the Israeli side.. those people need to grow up.
My concerns are that even if Hamas is disarmed from his weapons another group of radical idiots will raise and just replace them, this peace idea need to come from the citizens aswell and not just from the political side


Why not just demolish Gaza and send them to back to Syria / Jordan / Egypt ?


Once that will happen people like Ylem122 will say they need millitary power to defend against Israel.
Its just a circle that never ends.

ur saying how the us had a tea party and guess what we did after it?? we learned to coexist for the looks of it the jews and arabs seem to live in peice inside isreal walls but for some fucking reason kids like lobbing bombs, anyways

also idk if u know this but some muslim groups/sects seem to be super anti anything but muslim look @ isis litterly telling ppl to either go and convert or be killed anyways


i agree with something i heard from real time with bill thats christians had their dark ages to get their shit together i guess its now the muslim dark ages ;/ sadly people will die they will kill each other and keep doing so till one side says guys we litterly killin ourselves lets stop.

also not justifyin shit but it wasn't the jews Who took the land it was given to them they found wars over it and won and as they say to the winner go the spoils? no?

war of 1967 why should isreal give up territory that if they had lost we wouldn't have an isreal plz

This post was edited by southpark247 on Jul 23 2014 01:30am

"he who becomes master of a city accustomed to freedom and does not destroy it, may expect to be destroyed by it, for in rebellion it has always the watch-word of liberty and its ancient privileges as a rallying point, which neither time nor benefits will ever cause it to forget. And what ever you may do or provide against, they never forget that name or their privileges unless they are disunited or dispersed but at every chance they immediately rally to them" - Nicolo Machiavelli