Your opinion on what rich people "deserve" is irrelevant. We have a system that rewards people who start a business that satisfies customer's needs/wants. We also incorporate significant social welfare programs to provide a safety net for the people who fall through the cracks.

Social justice belongs in the Sociology classroom, not in reality.

“Social Justice” or whatever the crap passed for it these days doesn't belong anywhere in an academic setting, it does nothing positive except produce entitled graduates who bicker on social media accounts about how offended they are.

you are absolutely right, altruism belongs in the church, thats where social justice needs to be taught.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Apr 4 2014 10:09am

Never heard of Lutherans?

"Safety Net" in this country is below the poverty line... which is NOT a safety net at all, its a piece of "scrap" the ultra rich are tossing off their seven course meal to make sure the mouse doesn't die immediately.

What really astounds me is I guarantee you are no where near the top 5% of wealth in this country, I bet no where near 15% .... YET, you act like your the top 1%.

This video is VERY informative , and chilling to say the least, thanks.

Academic Class Models
Dennis Gilbert, 2002 William Thompson & Joseph Hickey, 2005 Leonard Beeghley, 2004
Class Typical characteristics Class Typical characteristics Class Typical characteristics


Capitalist class (1%) Top-level executives, high-rung politicians, heirs. Ivy League education common. Upper class (1%) Top-level executives, celebrities, heirs; income of $500,000+ common. Ivy league education common. The super-rich (0.9%) Multi-millionaires whose incomes commonly exceed $350,000; includes celebrities and powerful executives/politicians. Ivy League education common.
Upper middle class[1] (15%) Highly-educated (often with graduate degrees), most commonly salaried, professionals and middle management with large work autonomy. Upper middle class[1] (15%) Highly-educated (often with graduate degrees) professionals & managers with household incomes varying from the high 5-figure range to commonly above $100,000. The Rich (5%) Households with net worth of $1 million or more; largely in the form of home equity. Generally have college degrees.
Middle class (plurality/
majority?; ca. 46%) College-educated workers with considerably higher-than-average incomes and compensation; a man making $57,000 and a woman making $40,000 may be typical.
Lower middle class (30%) Semi-professionals and craftsmen with a roughly average standard of living. Most have some college education and are white-collar. Lower middle class (32%) Semi-professionals and craftsmen with some work autonomy; household incomes commonly range from $35,000 to $75,000. Typically, some college education.
Working class (30%) Clerical and most blue-collar workers whose work is highly routinized. Standard of living varies depending on number of income earners, but is commonly just adequate. High school education.
Working class (32%) Clerical, pink- and blue-collar workers with often low job security; common household incomes range from $16,000 to $30,000. High school education. Working class
(ca. 40–45%) Blue-collar workers and those whose jobs are highly routinized with low economic security; a man making $40,000 and a woman making $26,000 may be typical. High school education.
Working poor (13%) Service, low-rung clerical and some blue-collar workers. High economic insecurity and risk of poverty. Some high school education.
Lower class (ca. 14–20%) Those who occupy poorly-paid positions or rely on government transfers. Some high school education.
Underclass (12%) Those with limited or no participation in the labor force. Reliant on government transfers. Some high school education. The poor (ca. 12%) Those living below the poverty line with limited to no participation in the labor force; a household income of $18,000 may be typical. Some high school education.


References: Gilbert, D. (2002) The American Class Structure: In An Age of Growing Inequality. Belmont, CA: Wadsworth; Thompson, W. & Hickey, J. (2005). Society in Focus. Boston, MA: Pearson, Allyn & Bacon; Beeghley, L. (2004). The Structure of Social Stratification in the United States. Boston, MA: Pearson, Allyn & Bacon.
1 The upper middle class may also be referred to as "Professional class" Ehrenreich, B. (1989). The Inner Life of the Middle Class. NY, NY: Harper-Colins.

This post was edited by josh2234 on Apr 4 2014 04:08pm

raping a baby rofl this is more than horrible

The safety net is not supposed to be desirable. It's there so we don't have large numbers of people going hungry or homeless. It's there to sustain them until they can get to the point of sustaining themselves.

I'm not, nor ever will be, rich. I have no desire to be. Can you say the same?

The point im making is a safety net needs to be a living wage.... not something that will keep someone alive.....