so if chance to ow stacks, u should have 50 ow with dual dooms ? whats the cap ?

I like to refer to this as the 'common sense-cap'.

with dracs, yes, 50% ow with each doom

without dracs, no, only 25% ow with each weapon

cap is 100%

shall i use gloves crafted + 20 ias ? + lich life ? or draculs still better ?.

ofc draculs better you nn ias and ll -.-

i got a barb, nearly like this ! GZ its the best guide.!

Pretend this is in the main guide

Open Wounds

Open wounds [OW from now on] is something every melee PvP char should consider. It's basically an unresistable form of Poison damage, i.e. constant damage over a set course of time. It's extremely useful, but for some reason overlooked [possibly because people simply look at their char screen in order to figure out what's the most damaging setup].

How does OW work? Several items have a % chance to trigger OW. Dracs, for example, impart a 25% OW bonus. Gore Riders give 10%. How does it work in terms of you WWing something? In a nutshell, you basically add up your sources of OW and that basically gives you your % to trigger it. So if you have Gores and Dracs, you have a total of 35% OW. You can actually readh 100%, with anything past 100% being useless.

The equation for how much damage OW will cause [Taken from the Arreat Summit, a site you guys should visit whenever you have questions]:

Clvl=1-15: 25*(9*Clvl+31)/256
Clvl=16-30: 25*(18*Clvl-104)/256
Clvl=31-45: 25*(27*Clvl-374)/256
Clvl=46-60: 25*(36*Clvl-779)/256
Clvl=61-99: 25*(45*Clvl-1319)/256

Clvl = Character level

Let's take my barbs level [93]. The equation would look like [this is damage per second]:

25 * (45 * 93 - 1319) / 256
25 * (4185 - 1319) / 256
25 * 2866 / 256
71,650 / 256
= 279.9~ damage.

Since that damage happens for period of 8 seconds: 279.9 * 8 = 2,239 ~ damage.

However, since it's PvP, the damage is reduced by 1/4th, so 2,239 / 4 = 559.7 or 560 total PvP damage done. 560~ practically free damage. The only way to negate OW is to have some insane life regen [to the point where your build is designed around it, almost] or to use health pots. This is a lot of damage. OW cuts straight through things like Bone Armor and Energy Shield, meaning you can win duels by doing hit and runs and bleeding your opponent to the point where the next WW pass will kill them. In many matchups OW is absolutely critcal. This is also one of the many reasons Dracs >>> Steelrends. While rends give some ED, that bonus can't compare to the possible huge damage output Dracs provide. Utilizing OW allows you to constantly deal damage without putting yourself in immediate danger.

Note: These calculations are not for ranged attacks. Ranged OW is similiar, using the same exact equation, but instead of dividing by 4 [the PvP penalty], you divide by 8. So 2,239 / 8 = 279~ OW damage from a ranged source [in a BvCs case, the Widowmaker]. Remember this is just the OW damage; the damage you deal with the weapon itself is NOT factored in, which should be obvious.

Also note: Since you're dual-wielding, you must be aware that any OW% on a weapon [in the vast majority of cases, Beast] only affects that weapon. The OW% will not magically transfer onto your Grief [if it did, dual-wielding would be even more insane]. Off weapon sources such as Dracs/Gores/OW Belts, however, will apply to both weapons.

I hate math.

I read almost every word of the guide.

I have been playing Necro for a long long long time... (pnb ofc) but now I am trying out the BvC. I hate the fact that BvC almost can not beat BvB's... that is so annoying. But I dont have to face enough BvB's to matter I guess.

I have been doing decent against the "pub" pnb duelers ive played agianst simply because ive been a nec for 2 years so I know how they think. Im inside thier mind.

But questions for the BvC.

1) Do you think a BvC would win more of his duels than an equally skilled and geared Necro PnB??

2) I tested dmg on a friends char's using ravenx2 + highlord, and using angelics, and angelics hit him more often, and did more dmg..

But you post that I should use Ravnesx2 +highlord?

I am a complete noob when it comes to barb, so your probably right... but why?

I read your pro/con about angelic, but im just going on what dmg I did when I tested the two different setups.

Hey!
i normally own the necros, there are a few who beats me though. (im talking b.net duells). if youre skilled enough, youll own most necs.

i dont believe you did more damage, that sounds weird. highlords has 33% chance of deadly strike i think it is which means he does MASSIVE damage 33% of the times (1 hit kills on most casters).
and you dont really need more than 8-10 k ar anyway.

But w/o Angelics I only have like 5k ar...

I only tested on a hammerdin who had max dr and max block. w/o Angelics it took me like 10-20 hits to even hit him!

With angelics I hit him 1 time every 5-10 hits.

I can see how it wouldnt matter against like... Sorcs and necros or whatever, but vs max block I dont see how you wuold beat a hammerdin that you can hardly hit!?

5k ar just is not enough...

I guess I absolutely have to change my 20 lifers, for 20 life + ar.

Oh, and vs necros!!? If your East SCL, I'll duel you to show you thats simply not true. I dont even have max block on my necro, and I can tank most bvc's.

This post was edited by forbattlenet on Nov 7 2006 09:46am