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Nov 2 2006 08:09pm
Wow you made all this? Very very nice.
This will be stickied and your first step to getting trusted lol
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Nov 2 2006 08:44pm
definitly the Best Guide I have Ever seen before. Everything is explained very well, you give a detailed explanation on the dueling of all the different classes, and a good explanation on the gear/useful skills.

One question, you hit 6k ar with ur caster gear on, is that really enough?
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Nov 2 2006 09:17pm
6k AR is perfectly fine. My inven isn't completely max/ar/life SCs. I have a mix of perm 3/20/20's, 3/xx/20's, life/mana SCs, 4x 5fhr/5res all, and a bunch of plain 20 life SCs. So someone who just buys a set of 32020s will have more AR than me, easily. I've found that 6k AR is enough to hit pretty much everything other than pallys/barbs/MAYBE zons that wear fort and have chilling armor activated [I doubt this last one, though].

I am missing a few builds, which I'll probably make up for later, eventually.
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Nov 2 2006 10:35pm
i have experienced using a bunch of 30+ar/20life scs is a good decision. easily gets your ar up to like 8-10k, which increases your damage output as well smile.gif
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Nov 2 2006 10:42pm
Well, higher AR doesn't exactly mean more damage output, it just means that the chance to cause damage is better. You also have to take into account that the targets you normally go after [sorcs/necs/druids/etc] don't have higher Def in most cases, so having 8-10k is pretty much the same as having 6k~ compared to their defense.

However, higher AR overall is very helpful for pallys and other barbs. I'm just saying that against casters [with caster gear on] your AR doesn't matter much.

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Nov 2 2006 11:06pm
Quote (De4dEyE @ Fri, 3 Nov 2006, 05:17)
6k AR is perfectly fine. My inven isn't completely max/ar/life SCs. I have a mix of perm 3/20/20's, 3/xx/20's, life/mana SCs, 4x 5fhr/5res all, and a bunch of plain 20 life SCs. So someone who just buys a set of 32020s will have more AR than me, easily. I've found that 6k AR is enough to hit pretty much everything other than pallys/barbs/MAYBE zons that wear fort and have chilling armor activated [I doubt this last one, though].

I am missing a few builds, which I'll probably make up for later, eventually.


Now, is the 6k with Ravens or FCR rings?

Also, do you find the lack of CBF to be a nuisance? As there could be a worst case scenario such as you're dueling in a public game and get frozen by a cold sorc. Won't be 'cool' to duel anyone while frozen, makes doing triwhirls a damn lot harder to do effectively.
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Nov 2 2006 11:19pm
The 6k is with FCR rings. 2x Ravens would net around 8-9k total for my barb.

And CBF isn't really an issue for me. I don't find it that debillitating to have to duel someone else while Frozen. You get from point A to point B a bit slower, WW-wise, but if they're kept short enough they still retain pretty much the same effectiveness. If it's against a smiter or a Windy I'd be more careful, but if I were dueling in a pub environment I'd probably stick to the pub setup and not be frozen at all in the first place.
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Nov 4 2006 02:05pm
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one of the best if not the best bvc guide i ever saw. ill read it carefullly later to look for smallmistakes, but for sure made VERY GOOD JB :-)
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Nov 4 2006 04:20pm
Realy nice remake, the other guide was quiet hard to read^^

I play BvC as well and have 1 Question. What can u do if u duell against a Boner who is using Walls + Iron? Leap is useless thx to the walls and ww also thx to iron. Zerk works only if the boner is afk cause its just to slow (especialy when the golem hitted u before) and lifetap dont work on walls. Is there a way to get such a boner?
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