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Aug 16 2009 02:01pm
Quote (ferdia @ Sun, Aug 16 2009, 07:44pm)
shiny is a paladin.


shiny has cres moon ;D
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Quote (ferdia @ Sun, Aug 16 2009, 12:46am)
The current cold sorc's on euro nonladder are of the - Res variety rather then + damage. therefore, with more stack + 1 raven (ie 350+ stack) their damage is nullified. My comments are for the cold sorcs, not you. i.e. to see if there is a happy medium re: how much cold stack can all classes wear vs cold sorc's.

...imo they should just make the damage version of cold sorcs, since the - Res is only great vs ppl that dont have a cold stack setup [ie noobs!], since its poor vs itemlamers.


Or maybe we should just balance the coldstack (like they do in HLD tours) Since the damage you get from boosting frostbolt is minor.
I myself have a stack setup on my coldsorc and ive tested it vs Maxs blizzer.
1raven + no stack = 1hit dead, where as stack + raven = 6-7 full blizzards to kill me.
So when we have fun duels I play with lvl 1iceblast + lvl 1blizzard (63fcr + stack) vs maxed iceblast/blizzard (105fcr + no stack) and they are about 50/50 to each of us (know its not the hardest fact, but should give people some idea of how lame it really is. Compare with firesorcs how much abs a fber would need with lvl 1fireball/1firebolt/63fcr vs 20fireball/20firebolt/105fcr to make it even...)
Personally I dont really care that much, and I agree with dyl4nd0u that I would rather havefun offensive duels rather than 2 people running away from eachother for an hour and a half. (Stack in my eyes should be allowed on all melee chars, since they have such a hard time vs orbers. However chars like bowas/trappers/fbsorcs etc, who has such a huge advantage its just pure stupidity to allow them to nulify the damage...)
Cant see why coldsorcs have such hard abs, when fb sorcs are the more common and better choice? I dont see people allowed to wear hots + dwarf vs fb sorcs?
Alot of whining here im sorry, just really cant see the point of this discussion since its proven you can outstack all elements.
No matter what people agree on abot the -res, I would like to join with my orber.
Nice to have another tour.
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Aug 16 2009 02:17pm
im in with friday
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Aug 16 2009 03:41pm
hoi again. I dont think I will b able to join coz Im only back for 2 days, then 2 weeks off :/

This post was edited by SirEdwards on Aug 16 2009 03:42pm
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Aug 16 2009 03:54pm
so 75res (full stacked) + raven = nullified dmg?

and ah, maybe test out when you go on full dmg instead of -res (maybe 10-30% more?).
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Aug 16 2009 04:16pm
Quote (dyl4nd0u @ Sun, Aug 16 2009, 09:54pm)
so 75res (full stacked) + raven = nullified dmg?

and ah, maybe test out when you go on full dmg instead of -res (maybe 10-30% more?).


Basicly yea, ofcourse if you stand still making 100% full orbs people lifebars move a bit, but duelling real its basicly non existing damage yea
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Aug 16 2009 05:19pm
Entrants:

1. Ferdia [Light Assassin] *as49 or [PNB Necro] *disfawn // (i have not decided yet)
2. Srn1 [Windy DuDu] *WeissBierDK
3. Vylegun [Light Assassin] *r0fl
4. Octogenarian [ESFB] *fb49
5. Demonsangel [VitaLight Soso] *Light49 << unavailable for 2 weeks. (will pm once we have 16+)
6. Mevonis [Java]
7. Puffen [Lightsoso]
8. Leevolka [Libby] *lld-demon
9. Swash [java]
10.Taffy_Mld [ESFB]
11.TheBadLuitenant [DexBowa] *visitors
12.Kenniacmoto [LightSoso]
13.Breakbeatz [Wofassa]
14.Minifoot [PNBNecro]
15.Assmilk [Orber [-res]]

ideally 20 players, but if we are stuck with 16 at the end of this week, i might let it run another week so drew (demonsangel) can be included.

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Aug 16 2009 05:52pm
Quote (asSmiLk @ Sun, Aug 16 2009, 11:16pm)
Basicly yea, ofcourse if you stand still making 100% full orbs people lifebars move a bit, but duelling real its basicly non existing damage yea


ofc!

"make high dmg cold build"

Would be a bad fb sorc fake or? Why the hell should i make a coldsorc to have same dmg like 1fb @ end? (ofc only as blizz...orb wont reach 1fb dmg if fullstacked+1raven)

FB is really better choice then...
The HLD Stackmax has a good reason: Coldsorcs maindmg comes from minor res
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Aug 16 2009 05:54pm
Quote (Benni85 @ Sun, Aug 16 2009, 11:52pm)
ofc!

"make high dmg cold build"

Would be a bad fb sorc fake or? Why the hell should i make a coldsorc to have same dmg like 1fb @ end? (ofc only as blizz...orb wont reach 1fb dmg if fullstacked+1raven)

FB is really better choice then...
The HLD Stackmax has a good reason: Coldsorcs maindmg comes from minor res


You want to use -res as advantage.
Hld isnt mld :D
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Aug 16 2009 05:55pm
Quote (Benni85 @ Sun, Aug 16 2009, 11:52pm)
ofc!

"make high dmg cold build"

Would be a bad fb sorc fake or? Why the hell should i make a coldsorc to have same dmg like 1fb @ end? (ofc only as blizz...orb wont reach 1fb dmg if fullstacked+1raven)

FB is really better choice then...
The HLD Stackmax has a good reason: Coldsorcs maindmg comes from minor res


My point exactly ;)
But fbsorcs wouldnt own that much if everyone was allowed to use hots + dwarf
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