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May 18 2009 04:30pm
Quote (ThorThunderGod @ Mon, May 18 2009, 06:26pm)
He doesnt mean that the dmg on both weapons will increase eqully ... its the % of increase that gives same result

But CoolBreeze is right about that build giving much higher AVERAGE dmg that the 120 dex build, but i doubt his defense is as good as with 120 dex  :)


but percent doesnt mean anything

think about this....if i add a point into str with a crappy weapon...i dont get all that much in return...not much damage (not talking % but actual damage)
but if i add that point into Dex when i have a crappy weapon...then I get more crits, and crits ignore defense...allowing for my bad weapon to still do a good amount of damage
so for most players, your damage will be better if you do dex after you have reached 5 str higher than your EE
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Quote (mfmage @ Mon, May 18 2009, 04:21am)
your fine, if your EE is as high as yours is...

but if your EE was only 100, then your STR higher than 100 or 110 would be diminishing returns, and Dex would be pretty important then


Is the diminishing returns part true???
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May 18 2009 04:31pm
Quote (Teh_Furyz @ Mon, May 18 2009, 06:30pm)
Is the diminishing returns part true???


on actual amount of damage = yes
on % of damage = no

but most ppl care only about actual damage, so YES
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Quote (Teh_Furyz @ Mon, 18 May 2009, 16:30)
Is the diminishing returns part true???


no
strength is not subject to diminishing returns

Quote (mfmage @ Mon, 18 May 2009, 16:31)
on actual amount of damage = yes
on % of damage = no

but most ppl care only about actual damage, so YES


you got your conclusion partially right but your yes/no wrong
actual damage is what people care about, and it is not diminishing
making me right

This post was edited by jbpellerin on May 18 2009 04:34pm
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May 18 2009 04:33pm
Quote (jbpellerin @ Mon, May 18 2009, 06:31pm)
no
strength is not subject to diminishing returns



you got your conclusion right but your yes/no wrong
making me right


you couldn't give a shit whether you help ppl make the right decision on their stat points, just so long as "YOU ARE RIGHT" so here....you are right

now get out so we can help these ppl with what they are doing...since amount of damage is ALL THAT MATTERS for 99% of ppl in this game
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May 18 2009 04:36pm
Quote (mfmage @ Mon, 18 May 2009, 16:33)
you couldn't give a shit whether you help ppl make the right decision on their stat points, just so long as "YOU ARE RIGHT" so here....you are right

now get out so we can help these ppl with what they are doing...since amount of damage is ALL THAT MATTERS for 99% of ppl in this game


ya I screwed up by partially agreeing with you, your conclusion was wrong not right, you are right in that actual damage is what people care about
but you were wrong in saying it is diminishing
it is not
so strength is not diminishing

and if I'm wrong I'll fess up to it, but as of now none of you have provided anything to discredit me, other than saying I have a poor attitude
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May 18 2009 04:43pm
thank god i play caster for all chars.... well dunno about headhunter...

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May 18 2009 04:52pm
I think i might see JB's point, though I will have to do some math to decide...ill post later with my findings, but I wanted to say that if i showed any hostility in this post, then Im sorry...I didnt mean to
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Quote (mfmage @ Mon, May 18 2009, 10:33pm)
you couldn't give a shit whether you help ppl make the right decision on their stat points, just so long as "YOU ARE RIGHT" so here....you are right

now get out so we can help these ppl with what they are doing...since amount of damage is ALL THAT MATTERS for 99% of ppl in this game


Easy there angry bear, we were all discussing this somewhat politly before. No need personal attacks. Oh and as far as him giving out bad advice I remember a topic not so long ago where people were encouraging more dex because faster attack speed O.o

This post was edited by arxyn on May 18 2009 04:54pm
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Quote (arxyn @ Mon, May 18 2009, 06:53pm)
Easy there angry bear, we were all discussing this somewhat politly before.  No need personal attacks.  Oh and as far as him giving out bad advice I remember a topic not so long ago where people were encouraging more dex because faster attack speed O.o


see post above mate...
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