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May 23 2006 11:21am
Quote (Gavelin @ Tue, May 23 2006, 02:53pm)
Using oak + fade in 1vs1 vs other hammer, i consider that as lame. You got a bad reputation in duelling thats what i heard about you.


Prefer 20 fc amu + wizz, then you are allowed to use bloodfist gloves thats better then silly trang.



1) I've never used fade in HvH or never vs any other char either for that matter. You nn fade with this build, trust me

2) Tell me how you can use bloodfist + wizz and still maintain high life and 125 fc? (Using hoto + 2 bks + arach is alot better)

3) Why is it lame w oak in Hvh? Use it yourself then, it's np at all. What you can't handle you can't stand huh?

4) You shouldn't even be talking gavelin, ownd xx times last time i saw you in game, you lacked all the skill a hammer should have, no competion whatsoever. Someone like that shouldn't write here and whine. Until you get more skill (or is it your hammer build that gives you problem, using wizzy +zaka? ^^) i really don't think your entitled to speak so ssccchh.

5) Tell my why i have a bad reputation in dueling? Ppl are probably jealous and angry cause they a frustrated they can't win. And i guess you are one of them m8, after i pwnd you so hard you left with the tail between your legs.

6) trang gloves is the best setup vs all chars no matter how you twist and turn it, I guess you haven't even read the guide, do that before you come with shameful comments.

Don't bother in whining like a little shit here (focus on the guide instead or write a better yourself), either you read the guide and comment that, and if you don't like it, suggest a better build, i would be glad to see that : ) And we can discuss it here. Don't write in here unless you have something constructive to say. And no matter the "reputation" good or bad, it has nothing to do in this thread, so either write that somewhere else or be quiet plz.

Explain this plz: http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=2306841&st=0
And tell me why aren't you even on any of the lists? Oo Now come back when you can behave

This post was edited by --TheJesus-- on May 23 2006 11:50am
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May 23 2006 11:23am
hi vic, we had some nice hvh ( i used Warrior-AiM) he was running 5.3k life happy.gif
i was just wondering wot stats does ur hammerdin have smile.gif?

Edit: also, maybe you could considder that 1 base or so is nice in res auras. (light,fire,cold)
Very handy for easy stack res

This post was edited by anthony. on May 23 2006 11:27am
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May 23 2006 11:30am
Quote (anthony. @ Tue, May 23 2006, 05:23pm)
hi vic, we had some nice hvh ( i used Warrior-AiM) he was running 5.3k life happy.gif
i was just wondering wot stats does ur hammerdin have smile.gif?

Edit: also, maybe you could considder that 1 base or so is nice in res auras. (light,fire,cold)
Very handy for easy stack res


Hi m8, yeah stacked res can be used if you have charge on left side, i don't since it only suit for vigor+charge (pure desync def build) build. If you're main attack is lock as me, those auras become pretty useless since the time shifting for aura and at the same time trying to inflict a lock don't go hand in hand. But sure as I said before you can put 1 into some of the res auras if you feel they are needed, but it's far from necessary if you ask me since you will have enough stacked res as it is. Cheers

Edit:
If you read the guide, this build isen't a vigor+charge build as your build is, this is a lock/charge build and for that purpose putting points into any of the res auras isen't very practical and won't be needed Since you won't have any problems with elemental chars in the first place.

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May 23 2006 11:55am
Quote (Gavelin @ Tue, May 23 2006, 02:53pm)
Using oak + fade in 1vs1 vs other hammer, i consider that as lame. You got a bad reputation in duelling thats what i heard about you.


Prefer 20 fc amu + wizz, then you are allowed to use bloodfist gloves thats better then silly trang.


Here is another 1 : http://forums.d2jsp.org/index.php?showtopic=2323278&f=142
You are ofc welcome to talk about the guide, but don't put up lies and comments that dosen't regard this topic please Thnx.

This post was edited by --TheJesus-- on May 23 2006 11:57am
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May 23 2006 12:19pm
Nice guide, i have duelled you varies times and it always nice to fight against a skiller hammerdin and not someone who just spam hammers hoping something will hit smile.gif
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Quote (Host_of_sorrow @ Tue, May 23 2006, 06:19pm)
Nice guide, i have duelled you varies times and it always nice to fight against a skiller hammerdin and not someone who just spam hammers hoping something will hit smile.gif


Yeah thnx. I'm glad someone apreciate it. Cheers flash.gif

This post was edited by --TheJesus-- on May 23 2006 01:05pm
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May 23 2006 01:20pm
You can have a look at my stats ~.~

LvL 96 Hammerdin:

250% Stacked Res
46% Damage Reduce
75% Block
86%Fhr
4.9K Life
11K Dmg
985 Mana
125% Fcr

Items:

Head:
141 Shako "Ber"
141 Shako "Ohm"
Kiara 70% Res "Lo"

Weapons:
Wizz "15 Res / 7 Fhr"
Suicide Branch "7 Fhr / 7 Dex / 26% Ed / 6 Life" (1+ Skills, 50% Fcr, 40 Life Wand, this rocks vs meele if you wanna use 125% Fcr) (I got no space for hoto setup)
Grief Pb 30-388-20

Shields:
Spirit Sacred Targe 35 Fcr, 97 Mana, 42% Res (Best Block Shield 60% & Godly Base Res)
Eth Exile Sacred Rondach 734 def, 15 Aura, 45% Res (58% Block, Perf Res!)

Armor:
Enigma Dusk 15-775, 1313 def (Perf def with no dur sup% which makes it cheaper to reapir)

Belt:
BugBelt

Amus:
Mara 30%
Craft Pala: 2 Pala, 20 Fcr, 20 Mana, 9 Mana Reg, 19 Res / 48 Cold (Havent seen better amu for public duells)

Rings:
2* Raven 250/20 (blue skin) for absorb
2* Dwarf 15/15 (red skin) for absorb
2* Wisp 20% (crown skin) for absorb (not perf mf, just perf abs%)
Rare Fcr: 10 Fcr, 15 Dex, 23 Life, 26 Mana, 10 Res / 29 Cold
Rare Fcr: 10 Fcr, 15 Dex, 40 Life, 26 Fire, 18 Psn, 9 Fire

Boots:
Bitterspur
Waterwalk 210/65 (not upg)
Hotspur 20%

Gloves:
Bloodfist, Max Upg 20%, 88 def (100% perf)

Bo Switch:
Cta War Axe 6/6/4
Spirit Heraldic Shield, 35 Fcr, 100 Mana, 45 Res

Inventory:
4* Pala Combats 40 Life (eye-skin)
1* Pala Combat 42 Life (eye-skin)
22* 20/5s scīs
Anni 20/20/7
Pala Torch 20/20


Btw do you prefer arach instead of bb, i dont think many will agree with you.

Iam longing to duell you, its hard to compare a char which casts oak in duell, i will do the same so we can start equal.
HvH, i prefer spirit weap and cast wolfes if you wanna lame more.
You killed me 1 time and with oak, dont say other smile.gif






This post was edited by Gavelin on May 23 2006 01:25pm
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May 23 2006 01:26pm
Quote (Gavelin @ Tue, May 23 2006, 07:20pm)
You can have a look at my stats ~.~

LvL 96 Hammerdin:

250% Stacked Res
46% Damage Reduce
75% Block
86%Fhr
4.9K Life
11K Dmg
985 Mana
125% Fcr

Items:

Head:
141 Shako "Ber"
141 Shako "Ohm"
Kiara 70% Res "Lo"

Weapons:
Wizz "15 Res / 7 Fhr"
Suicide Branch "7 Fhr / 7 Dex / 26% Ed / 6 Life" (1+ Skills, 50% Fcr, 40 Life Wand, this rocks vs meele if you wanna use 125% Fcr) (I got no space for hoto setup)
Grief Pb 30-388-20

Shields:
Spirit Sacred Targe 35 Fcr, 97 Mana, 42% Res (Best Block Shield 60% & Godly Base Res)
Eth Exile Sacred Rondach 734 def, 15 Aura, 45% Res (58% Block, Perf Res!)

Armor:
Enigma Dusk 15-775, 1313 def (Perf def with no dur sup% which makes it cheaper to reapir)

Belt:
BugBelt

Amus:
Mara 30%
Craft Pala: 2 Pala, 20 Fcr, 20 Mana, 9 Mana Reg, 19 Res / 48 Cold (Havent seen better amu for public duells)

Rings:
2* Raven 250/20 (blue skin) for absorb
2* Dwarf 15/15 (red skin) for absorb
2* Wisp 20% (crown skin) for absorb (not perf mf, just perf abs%)
Rare Fcr: 10 Fcr, 15 Dex, 23 Life, 26 Mana, 10 Res / 29 Cold
Rare Fcr: 10 Fcr, 15 Dex, 40 Life, 26 Fire, 18 Psn, 9 Fire

Boots:
Bitterspur
Waterwalk 210/65 (not upg)
Hotspur 20%

Gloves:
Bloodfist, Max Upg 20%, 88 def (100% perf)

Bo Switch:
Cta War Axe 6/6/4
Spirit Heraldic Shield, 35 Fcr, 100 Mana, 45 Res

Inventory:
4* Pala Combats 40 Life (eye-skin)
1* Pala Combat 42 Life (eye-skin)
22* 20/5s scīs
Anni 20/20/7
Pala Torch 20/20


Btw do you prefer arach instead of bb, i dont think many will agree with you.


I gladly duell you with same acting, hammer vs hammer and using both spirit weap + spirit shield make some wolfes and cast oak, lovely.
Its easy to lame like you and i got all time to show you :>

Trang gloves, ha ha such joke.


Read what i write m8, i said arach + 2 bks + hoto vs hammers, nothing else. Read Guide and then write.

your hammer stats doesn't impress me, i have 5xxx life and 13 k dmg and if your build works for you stay with it, i don't force anyone to do anything. I made this guide to help ppl and its the best build you can possibly get if you ask me. If you think otherwise, stay with your thougths. No one force you to believe anything.



This post was edited by --TheJesus-- on May 23 2006 01:33pm
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May 23 2006 01:30pm
I still think spirit weap so you can cast wolfes are better then hoto in HvH, tried that?
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May 23 2006 01:35pm
Quote (Gavelin @ Tue, May 23 2006, 07:30pm)
I still think spirit weap so you can cast wolfes are better then hoto in HvH, tried that?


Cast wolfs? U can only produce wolfs by the runeword crescent moon which is considered very lame in HvH
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