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Nice guide, thanks alot smile.gif
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Quote (A_U_T_I_S_M @ Sun, Jun 1 2008, 11:33pm)
im not saying your messing it up, but you are always the one calling people fags or retards, or criticizing someone because they didnt tie their shoe in a double knot


Wait a second here. First part of your post (that I didn't quote), is rediculous, simply because you offer no proof, yet you demand I do. That's completely stupid. There were perm links at one point (were you here? Do you remember?) which would show the damage of the charm with ee figured in. I saw the perm links of MANY Ice XIV charms, and I saw Ice XIV charms that were in the ballpark of 170% ee that had equivilant damage to mine. Less did not equal mine, it was less. So, there's your formula. Do I still have the links? No. Do I need them? No. The fact I still use my Ice XII, and not an Ice XIV when I could easily have bought one attests quite clearly to how it is. smile.gif

The part I did quote? Who did I call a fag or retard, when, where, and if I didn't do it in this topic, how am I "always" doing it? You took offense when I asked a simple question. I've written 5 different guides, and been flamed, questioned, told I was wrong, and more, and I bore up to all of it without reducing myself to these pitiful accusations (at least within those guide topics). If you want to make a drama scene out of a simple question, fine. Better yet, don't, and just give a basic answer to the question. Damn dude, who shit in your cheerios? huh.gif

BTW, as Ninja, it took me closer to 5K kills (the last time I climbed it) than 3.5K kills. You may want to specifiy that your kill chart is based on feeder. wink.gif

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2.6% chance to fail 20mq's in a row
has anyone failed that many in a row before?
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Quote (low-ki @ Mon, Jun 2 2008, 01:43am)
2.6% chance to fail 20mq's in a row
has anyone failed that many in a row before?



jay rofl.gif

i think 46 times

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I demand more reasons, or a different title to be honest.

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Good guide dude.

Still working on that lose-proof lighter. ;o

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Quote (koalaofdoom @ Mon, Jun 2 2008, 01:49am)
I demand more reasons, or a different title to be honest.

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Wait a second here. First part of your post (that I didn't quote), is rediculous, simply because you offer no proof


we can friendly debate here...

your the one who comes on here with no proof of the dmg on these charms, or even showing me the 156 EE charm knowing that yours is equal to somewhere inbetween 155-156
so obviously one is going to have more dmg than another, but not because of why you stated, yes your right for some reason lower charms do more dmg, i hail.gif u


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amazing, will defenatly use this!!!
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Quote (A_U_T_I_S_M @ Sun, Jun 1 2008, 11:49pm)
we can friendly debate here...

your the one who comes on here with no proof of the dmg on these charms, or even showing me the 156 EE charm knowing that yours is equal to somewhere inbetween 155-156
so obviously one is going to have more dmg than another, but not because of why you stated, yes your right for some reason lower charms do more dmg, i hail.gif u


Who knows that? I used your formula to calculate that. I know the damage on mine compared to low 170% EE Ice XIV's in the perm links.

So, how did you get your information? Give me the reasoning behind your calculations. smile.gif

Edit: I just did some very basic calculations. Both 156ee and 157ee are wrong. But so is 170. Taking the base damage of both the tier XII ice, and the base damage of tier XIV, it's closer to about 158.5% EE. This is taking the base damage of both charms from Rag's guide, and multiplying by 2.99 and 2.58, respectively.

Having said that, I may have to do some mana calculations based on a Samurai's mana, and figure out whether I should hunt down a tier XIV charm afterall.

Props on the damage calculation. It's not quite spot on, but very close. smile.gif

Having said that, you still should put a disclaimer on your kill calculations. Reduction of experience in further tiers of classes makes it far less close to the mark (unless something has changed with the most recent updates). smile.gif

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i quote from Meq Guide Vs 9

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               Level      Ice          Fire         Lightning    Earth        Wind
Charm Quality   Required   Base Damage  Base Damage  Base Damage  Base Damage  Base Damage
Spell I         0          4-5          2-7          0-9          3-6          1-8
Spell II        0          9-11         5-15         1-19         7-13         3-17
Spell III       0          14-17        8-22         2-28         11-19        5-25
Spell IV        5          19-22        11-30        3-38         15-26        7-34
Spell V         10         23-28        14-38        4-47         19-33        9-43
Spell VI        15         28-34        17-45        5-57         23-40        11-51
Spell VII       20         33-39        19-53        6-66         26-46        13-60
Spell VIII      25         38-45        22-60        7-76         30-53        15-68
Spell IX        30         42-51        25-68        8-85         34-60        17-77
Spell X         35         47-57        28-76        9-95         38-67        19-86
Spell XI        40         52-62        31-83        10-104       42-74        21-94
Spell XII       45         57-68        34-91        11-114       46-80        23-103
Spell XIII      50         61-73        37-98        12-123       49-86        25-111
Spell XIV       55         66-79        39-106       13-133       53-93        26-120
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tier 12 base = 68*

your charm

68 * 2.99 = 203.32

tier 14 base = 79

79 * 2.57 = 203.03

hmmmmmmm...... something tells me your sources arnt accurate

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