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Apr 26 2024 12:32pm
Quote (daanno2 @ Apr 26 2024 11:03am)
i jsut checked, a 2-99 sc is a 1 in 10 million roll lmao, and requires ilvl 95
by contrast, a 3/20/20 sc is a 1 in 300k roll

im sure noobs are just chucking this left and right


yeah, extremely rare lol

maybe some 2-60 light dmg charms can be bought but even those most ppl dont keep

because doing 1.5k average lightning damage per strike is... really bad
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Apr 26 2024 12:34pm
Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Apr 26 2024 06:28pm)
Single target vs super massive aoe dmg
Not even close

Edit
And you really didnt even try to understand the build
I posted it
You use griefs, guillaums, phys sunder etc lol
Its useless to try to make those light dmg scs work in a typical build

Check post #35 for the real build
Im not saying its gonna compare with single target dmg.
Its all about the massive aoe dmg, and then this gets the job done much faster in any area solo p8

And if you still think a 3/20/20 or a 14/76 is cheaper than a regularly charsi’d 2-99 then its useless to discuss with a fool

Your inv cost 10x more
Your griefs cost 50x more
Here you have your very expensive build bad at p8 vs a much cheaper build doing much better


Stop with the bullshit. WW isn't an AOE skill by design. You don't even need perfect grand charms, even 10max dmg charms would outperform your silly build. 2-99 costs a fortune, EACH. GL finding 36 of them :lol: I can't find a single one in the trade forum.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Apr 26 2024 12:34pm
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Apr 26 2024 12:53pm
Quote (babun1024 @ Apr 26 2024 02:34pm)
Stop with the bullshit. WW isn't an AOE skill by design. You don't even need perfect grand charms, even 10max dmg charms would outperform your silly build. 2-99 costs a fortune, EACH. GL finding 36 of them :lol: I can't find a single one in the trade forum.


You talk about ww and I’m talking about frenzy since start
Ww cant proc ctc
You need static, stop thinking about the inventory for a second and open your eyes on the actual build.
This is how you make an aoe barb for p8.
You are like the others who think barb sucks at p8 cuz you can’t build it properly.
When you have very low %ed and str/dex max dmg is super useless.
But with -90 res from gear + infinity merc, light dmg is the best way to improve dmg. Also you dont suffer from loosing ar cuz conv lets you reach 95% hit chance with shitty low ar.

Oh and btw, you cant find these scs cuz they have no value.
Just do like me, stop using jsp and trade in game.
“Ber for light dmg scs” and you get served

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Apr 26 2024 12:56pm
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Apr 26 2024 01:06pm
Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Apr 26 2024 03:53pm)
You talk about ww and I’m talking about frenzy since start
Ww cant proc ctc
You need static, stop thinking about the inventory for a second and open your eyes on the actual build.
This is how you make an aoe barb for p8.
You are like the others who think barb sucks at p8 cuz you can’t build it properly.
When you have very low %ed and str/dex max dmg is super useless.
But with -90 res from gear + infinity merc, light dmg is the best way to improve dmg. Also you dont suffer from loosing ar cuz conv lets you reach 95% hit chance with shitty low ar.

Oh and btw, you cant find these scs cuz they have no value.
Just do like me, stop using jsp and trade in game.
“Ber for light dmg scs” and you get served


By the time you find all of these in game you could have lvled your barb to 99 already with a more standard build.

Throwing a couple cmoons on swap for a standard ww or throw barb isn’t a bad idea for areas with high health enemies. Frenzy stacks work really well on throw barb so you could swap weaps while gaining/maintaining stacks for heavy hitting javs on throw side. Would be annoying though
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Apr 26 2024 10:14pm
Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Apr 25 2024 04:59pm)
Highest dps AND aoe (overall clear speed) is…
Frenzy (ww cant proc ctc)
2x cmoon (-70res, tons of static procs doing most of the job on p8)
Infinity merc (95% hit chance with shit ar, extra -85res)
1-99 light dmg scs = ~6x more dmg than +3max dmg scs after all %ed and str bonuses


This build has trouble leeching due to much lower phys dmg, but you can use dracs for lifetap to fix this and you still reach max ias frenzy after a few stacks (also some pts in increased stamina like it was mentionned before).

Unpopular opinion, but 2x faster than anything that was suggested.
Lot of people gonna hate on this as usual.
The few who tried so far were mindblown.


Liked reading your build! Sounds fun for a p8
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Apr 28 2024 01:26pm
Quote (louiekat @ 27 Apr 2024 06:14)
Liked reading your build! Sounds fun for a p8


Sounds interesting! Is there any video showcasing this build?

Thanks!
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Apr 28 2024 01:37pm
Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Apr 26 2024 01:59am)
Highest dps AND aoe (overall clear speed) is…
Frenzy (ww cant proc ctc)
2x cmoon (-70res, tons of static procs doing most of the job on p8)
Infinity merc (95% hit chance with shit ar, extra -85res)
1-99 light dmg scs = ~6x more dmg than +3max dmg scs after all %ed and str bonuses


This build has trouble leeching due to much lower phys dmg, but you can use dracs for lifetap to fix this and you still reach max ias frenzy after a few stacks (also some pts in increased stamina like it was mentionned before).

Unpopular opinion, but 2x faster than anything that was suggested.
Lot of people gonna hate on this as usual.
The few who tried so far were mindblown.


or you can just use a griffon & 2cmoon frenzy merc and play whatever build you want on your main barb
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Apr 28 2024 03:50pm
Quote (Bers3rker @ Apr 28 2024 12:37pm)
or you can just use a griffon & 2cmoon frenzy merc and play whatever build you want on your main barb


Hm if light sunder in invent would it crack light immune for the merc? Probably not but maybe?
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Apr 28 2024 04:08pm
Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ Apr 28 2024 11:50pm)
Hm if light sunder in invent would it crack light immune for the merc? Probably not but maybe?


Nope, that's why that setup is completely useless on light immunes. And I still don't get why an act5 merc is required? Act2 merc can use cmoon, hits as fast or faster than act5 merc (frenzy is capped at 5fpa, jab can go to 4fpa) and offers 200ed with might on top.
Static chance on cmoon is also low. Best use case for static is conviction with a high chance weapon like schaefers or stormlash.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Apr 28 2024 04:14pm
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Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ Apr 26 2024 06:18am)
Yeah it is

Dual wield checks twice as often as 2hander

Your range will be smaller but if you keep your whirls tight that shouldn't matter much

I prefer frenzy to ww for p8 barb solo I found the clear speed superior

Max jewel arreat
Grief PB
Lawbringer PB
Gores
Laying of Hands
Enigma
Highlords
Raven
Mana leech ring
String of Ears

Hotos for bo/tele

Merc

Andy
Infinity
Fort

Inventory
Max dmg charm
Resist


For terror zones I recommend maxing increased stamina, keeping the frenzy buff between distant packs is nice QoL


did you test this wizz?
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