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Apr 25 2024 02:11pm
Yes, yet another barb topic this week.
Sry but I tried to google it, checked reddit posts or old d2jsp topics but most of the discussion ended up with offtopic or flaming each other due to different opinions.

So the question is: for P8 ww barb, is really 2x PB grief the best option?
By P8 I mean TZ, CS, pit, trav, cows etc... - not only boss sniping.

I swear I saw some discussion about grief/death or grief/ebotd in late 2023 but it ended without conclusion.

Thank you in advance for comments like: barb is for p1, go p1 trav, ww sucks go throw barb, eschuta gmod bla bla.. - no need to repeat them :)
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Apr 25 2024 02:18pm
Yeah it is

Dual wield checks twice as often as 2hander

Your range will be smaller but if you keep your whirls tight that shouldn't matter much

I prefer frenzy to ww for p8 barb solo I found the clear speed superior

Max jewel arreat
Grief PB
Lawbringer PB
Gores
Laying of Hands
Enigma
Highlords
Raven
Mana leech ring
String of Ears

Hotos for bo/tele

Merc

Andy
Infinity
Fort

Inventory
Max dmg charm
Resist


For terror zones I recommend maxing increased stamina, keeping the frenzy buff between distant packs is nice QoL


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Apr 25 2024 02:21pm
Yeah 2x Grief is your best option. I had heard someone has experimented with Grief + Phoenix or even double Phoenix and infinity merc, with a enchant buffbot sorc performing fairly well but I don't have any data on that.

Personally also used 2x Death on WW barb. It's not as good as 2x Grief but wearing 2 big ass swords is just kinda cool :D
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Apr 25 2024 02:22pm
Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ Apr 25 2024 01:18pm)
Yeah it is

Dual wield checks twice as often as 2hander

Your range will be smaller but if you keep your whirls tight that shouldn't matter much

I prefer frenzy to ww for p8 barb solo I found the clear speed superior

Max jewel arreat
Grief PB
Lawbringer PB
Gores
Laying of Hands
Enigma
Highlords
Raven
Mana leech ring
String of Ears

Hotos for bo/tele

Merc

Andy
Infinity
Fort

Inventory
Max dmg charm
Resist


For terror zones I recommend maxing increased stamina, keeping the frenzy buff between distant packs is nice QoL


Can't really go wrong with this setup, and just reading the theory from the other thread...I'd be more then willing to bet this is the optimal build pvm P8
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Apr 25 2024 02:26pm
Quote (ZeaLORDeaL @ Apr 25 2024 10:18pm)
Yeah it is

Dual wield checks twice as often as 2hander

Your range will be smaller but if you keep your whirls tight that shouldn't matter much

I prefer frenzy to ww for p8 barb solo I found the clear speed superior

Max jewel arreat
Grief PB
Lawbringer PB
Gores
Laying of Hands
Enigma
Highlords
Raven
Mana leech ring
String of Ears

Hotos for bo/tele

Merc

Andy
Infinity
Fort

Inventory
Max dmg charm
Resist


For terror zones I recommend maxing increased stamina, keeping the frenzy buff between distant packs is nice QoL


Thanks ! will make this in hero editor to test it on SP :)
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Apr 25 2024 02:59pm
dual wield 2x ebotd thunder mauls.
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Apr 25 2024 03:19pm
just play throw barb

much better
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Apr 25 2024 05:06pm
Quote (Weiser @ Apr 25 2024 03:22pm)
Can't really go wrong with this setup, and just reading the theory from the other thread...I'd be more then willing to bet this is the optimal build pvm P8


Guillames is by far a superior helmet option to arreats for pvm
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Apr 25 2024 05:59pm
Highest dps AND aoe (overall clear speed) is…
Frenzy (ww cant proc ctc)
2x cmoon (-70res, tons of static procs doing most of the job on p8)
Infinity merc (95% hit chance with shit ar, extra -85res)
1-99 light dmg scs = ~6x more dmg than +3max dmg scs after all %ed and str bonuses


This build has trouble leeching due to much lower phys dmg, but you can use dracs for lifetap to fix this and you still reach max ias frenzy after a few stacks (also some pts in increased stamina like it was mentionned before).

Unpopular opinion, but 2x faster than anything that was suggested.
Lot of people gonna hate on this as usual.
The few who tried so far were mindblown.
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Apr 25 2024 10:23pm
And yet again - the question was about WW WEAPON, not the best build.
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