nice attempt at a ridiculous strawman but youre wrong again buddy boy, lol

Whatever that is, it's not reliable. The fact that you're using some random thing that sources media reports when FBI Crime Statistics are the most complete of any source, so complete that even Wikipedia manages to do it right says a lot about your level of desperation to prove some weird point. But here, to help you out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_intentional_homicide_rate

District of Columbia 22.8 23.4 28.2 41.0 29.3
Louisiana 11.4 11.7 15.8 19.6 16.1
New Mexico 7.3 8.8 7.8 12.9 12.0
South Carolina 8.1 8.8 10.5 11.4 11.2
Alabama 7.8 7.9 9.6 9.4 10.9
Arkansas 7.4 7.8 10.6 11.0 10.2
Missouri 9.8 9.4 11.8 10.2 10.1
Alaska 6.4 9.4 6.7 6.1 9.5
Tennessee 7.5 7.5 9.6 10.2 8.6
Maryland 8.1 9.0 9.1 11.0 8.5
Georgia 6.2 5.7 8.8 7.9 8.2

The columns are year, with the most recent (far right) being 2022, oldest (far left) being 2018.

thanks for reinforcing my data !

Your data was false. It does bring up a question regarding Mississippi though. Why is it that they're being reported as a 22 per 100K murder rate by the CDC when they range from 7.2-10.6 from FBI Crime Statistics? Do you have an answer for that?

Now, as stated, pick a state, and let's discuss where the murder rate is set. Louisiana, for instance. Really want to discuss New Orleans and the policies of the Democrat Mayor? Or say Albuquerque New Mexico's Democrat Mayor? We could discuss DC but what even is the point? New Mexico is legitimately the most fun. 42% of the state's overall violent crime comes from Albuquerque. Remove that blue city, New Mexico drops all the way down to rank 20 or so. Granted, New Mexico has a Democrat governor as well.

And here's the real issue: In nearly every state, 1-3 cities set the crime rate for the entire state. The majority of those cities have Democrat mayors. Who the populace votes for in a Presidential rate has nothing to do with the stats. Most of it is gang violence, and the majority of ALL violent crime (majority as in, more than 50%) is committed by black males. Why? Dunno. You tell me, you're the smart one, or so you continue to insist.

Edit: The most entertaining portion of your weirdass, FALSE numbers would be Montana. According to you, apparently it's a pure death zone, yet here's what I see:
Montana 3.5 3.0 5.0 3.3 4.5

Doesn't seem bad at all. What the hell?

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Feb 15 2024 02:36pm

whats false about it? because it doesn't pick the data and provide an answer you agree with? first we were on gun violence but you dont like that because it includes suicide numbers (what a bizzare issue to have), then you dont like the murder rate figures, now you want to cherry pick cities and ignore state violence problems?

figure out what you want to argue about and lets go from there. the fact is, red states are less safe to live in and its not because of "democrat cities", its because Republicans want everyone to carry guns

The CDC is not tasked with collecting crime data. They are not a valid source. The source for crime data is the FBI Crime Statistics. All the states report to them, and they're seldom wrong.

I don't care about your conclusions. You've shown in your posting that all you care about is the standard, boring, braindead "us vs them" mentality of the average child. Don't care.

When addressing crime, you need to know where it's occurring, and who is committing it. First you attempted to conflate suicide numbers with homicide numbers. That's just outright stupidity. Then you attempted to focus on State numbers while ignoring where in the states the crime comes from, namely cities with Democrat Mayors setting the policy. Then, WHO is committing the murders? Majority black males.

If you want to figure out how to lower gun deaths, TRULY lower gun deaths? Figure out why urban black males like to murder people so much and fix it. We've already determined giving them free shit doesn't fix anything. Any other suggestions?

States vs cities my friend. Take out the (5-10) cities and the US magically becomes like Switzerland but I'm sure that's just a coincidence

so your answer is "im racist" ? cool story bro

Stats aren't racist. They're just stats. When the Stats directly state things like (this is 2018 for the example, but the numbers vary very little, so it's good enough):

"When the race of the offender was known, 54.9 percent were Black or African American, 42.4 percent were White, and 2.7 percent were of other races. The race was unknown for 4,821 offenders. (Based on Expanded Homicide Data Table 3.)"

Am I saying "all black people are murderous scum"? No. That would be stupid. However, when you have ~8% of the total population being black males, and making up over 50% of the homicide statistics, something very VERY serious is wrong.

It's not racist to ask for possible solutions. Nor is it racist to point out that the thing that's been tried for the last 16 years (giving them free shit) hasn't helped. Nor has bail reform. Nor has early release. Do you have any actual suggestions, or are you down to accusations of ists and isms, and out of your so-called "smart"?

Homicide rate by county (2014-2020 average rate):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Homicide_rate_by_county.webp



Let's zoom in to Missouri:


Compare with results from the 2020 presidential election:


Note that these blue counties hold a large share of the entire state's population and it's clear that it is the crime in the blue cities which drives up the homicide rate of this red state.



Looking at the homicide by county map from above, it's also evident that this connection doesn't hold everywhere in the country. Homicides in Arizona seem evenly distributed and pretty much the entirety of South Carolina is a shitshow.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 15 2024 04:05pm