no need to state the obvious, captain obvious

vaizards don't count, they are the ones we are debating over lol. Also the fights aren't nearly over.

Quincies also don't matter because Uryuu and his dad are the only 2 whom are not bound together by anything except blood and its been fairly obvious that neither of them like each other very much. They do not resemble any other group in any respect other than they worked together at least once.

You yourself said fillers don't count so bounts can't be counted either, follow your own rules. If you can use vaizards I can use muramasa who revealed his powers before anybody else and got into a fight almost right away.

Which leaves us with SS and Gotei 13 and Vaizards. Congratulations, 2 armies and 1 rag tag group of exiles. That's the makings of a very conclusive study.



I only ever wanted the acknowledgment of the possibility that the leader could reveal his powers not-last on the grounds that the vaizards don't have a pronounced leader like every other example. This will be my last post on the subject as I have stated before, your to proud and can't stand tainting your image of yourself as this super smart person who is never wrong so you can't even stand the thought that your first instinct might be wrong.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jan 16 2010 01:11pm

It's obvious that he's most likely a pedophile who gets sexually aroused when cutting young (looking) girls in half?

iso link i missed this

ye? well i mean, who wouldnt?

Me?

lol hitsugay will get raped again

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crap chapter

toshiro is a beats

na he will get knocked the eff out,

but he is still one of my fav chars

he is massivly powerful for being like 15 " not sure how old he is but he is young under 20 for sure"

once he has a hundreds years under his belt like the rest of the captians he will be one of the strongest if not the strongest becides The 4th Capt and Capt Comander obviously

where's gin ichimaru?



lol i'm guessing u're all out of comebacks to defend your position?

shinji was the last to reveal his shikai, therefore my observation holds true.... ishida's father never showed his true powers yet, so another score for me... you're the one that said we can use fillers, so bountos add another +1 to my defense.......

----and thank you for giving me another example of why i'm right.... muramasa was last to reveal his powers? are you serious or just stupid? are you telling me you didn't know what hyorinmaru's powers were beforehand? are you telling me u didn't know what kazeshini's powers were? need i go on? i don't think so.....so another +1 to defend my argument..

even without ss's gotei 13, i already have more examples that demonstrate my position as opposed to your 0......so far it just looks like you're making shit up

This post was edited by Cyba on Jan 21 2010 11:39pm