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#31
May 16 2012 04:42pm
Quote (Grief_exe @ May 16 2012 08:28am)
I'm constantly researching new headphones because I want to upgrade, probably getting the Beyer dt 990s next, there are a couple stores in Denver where I can check shit out. And I have tried on certain things.
There is listening bias, where your ears naturally enjoy the sound from that headset over those headphones. Does that mean the headset is objectively better? Definitely not, that headset is objectively garbage compared to those other phones.
Another possibility is you like that headset better because you want to like it better


wtf is this better is plainly an opinionated word, no facts behind it

example almond joy is the better candy bar, over snickers <----- this is what you sound like, its really funny

and you think i want to like my 30 dollar pair better then my $100+ pairs and let the wife wear/use them cuz I dont (which I cant object too if i'm not going to be using them while gaming

if I were you i'd be alittle more open minded to the fact yes a company can make quality sound with quality mic in one, I will say you are partially right about 9x% of headsets are pure marked up crap, I was surprised myself

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#32
May 16 2012 04:53pm
Quote (yupitsmeh @ May 16 2012 04:42pm)
wtf is this better is plainly an opinionated word, no facts behind it

example almond joy is the better candy bar, over snickers  <----- this is what you sound like, its really funny

and you think i want to like my 30 dollar pair better then my $100+ pairs and let the wife wear/use them cuz I dont (which I cant object too if i'm not going to be using them while gaming

if I were you i'd be alittle more open minded to the fact yes a company can make quality sound with quality mic in one, I will say you are partially right about 9x% of headsets are pure marked up crap, I was surprised myself


Yes that is exactly the point I am trying to make. Listening to music or audio is subjective, just like eating a candy bar or even the type of music you are listening to in the first place.

Just because the headphone is objectively worse in literally every single category doesn't mean that you don't subjectively enjoy it more.

And whose to say what you subjectively enjoy or do not enjoy, the problem with that is I have no way of knowing what the OP will actually enjoy once he puts the headphones on his head.

I make recommendations based off objective observations, ie his budget, the type of music he listens to and boil that down to the highest quality headphone in that price range.

Maybe he will subjectively like the Superlux, Grado, Ultrasonne, Audio Technica, etc, etc headphones at his price range because they sound warmer to him, but I have no way of knowing that. Let alone whether he will enjoy something that is objectively much, much worse.
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#33
May 16 2012 05:18pm
i use denon d5000's with a zalman clip on.
works fine.
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May 16 2012 08:19pm
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i use denon d5000's with a zalman clip on.
works fine.


Should work more than fine. Damn.
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May 16 2012 08:33pm
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Should work more than fine. Damn.


yeah, was a joking statement due to people saying that their beats/bose are INCREDIBLE.
they're pretty damn amazing :)
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May 17 2012 03:02am
Quote (Grief_exe @ May 16 2012 07:28am)
I'm constantly researching new headphones because I want to upgrade, probably getting the Beyer dt 990s next, there are a couple stores in Denver where I can check shit out. And I have tried on certain things.
There is listening bias, where your ears naturally enjoy the sound from that headset over those headphones. Does that mean the headset is objectively better? Definitely not, that headset is objectively garbage compared to those other phones.
Another possibility is you like that headset better because you want to like it better.



No. Much better options at that price range.




Ad700s would be great for that kind of music. They are about $105.

If you want a little more bass, not sure if heavy metal is bass heavy, check out the ultrasonne 580s at $115.



thanks, and im stationed out of FT Carson in colorado springs :)

edit: whats the difference between the a700's and the ad700's

This post was edited by Atma on May 17 2012 03:21am
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May 17 2012 03:36am
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thanks, and im stationed out of FT Carson in colorado springs :)

edit: whats the difference between the a700's and the ad700's


Nice. I live in Denver.

Its really just the difference between closed and open design.

Open has a wider soundstage and better sound positioning, but suffers from sound leakage and weaker bass.

Closed has no sound leakage.

Open is considered better for gaming.
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