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Jun 25 2012 02:45pm
Quote (stupidkid282 @ Jun 25 2012 09:05am)
Now I know you're a moron. 

You haven't driven the car, I haven't driven the car, so all we have to go by are the experiences of other people.

Here's an analogy you might understand.  A movie comes out and receives an incredible amount of positive reviews and attention.  It might not be your cup of tea, but you figure you will go see it anyways to judge it on your own, but until you do that, you have to trust that those reviews are true.

Even reviewed of the brZ itself tell everyone to forget the sheets, forget the specs because this car has an incredibly better feeling than the cars they have driven.



No, we don't just have to go off of experiences by other people. If you know anything about cars (it's glaringly obvious you don't) you can come to several accurate conclusions just by reading over the specs.

I don't go see a movie if it doesn't appeal to me. Why the fuck would I spend $20 just to see if some critics are right? I'll do the sensible thing and wait for it to come out on DVD. On the contrary, most of the movies I enjoy get shitty reviews from the professional critics. If the trailer looks good TO ME I'll go see it. If it doesn't, I don't care how good THEY say it is, it is most likely not for me.


Just how impressionable are you? Christ.


Quote (stupidkid282 @ Jun 25 2012 09:56am)
It wasn't made to be a fast car....... Are you fucking retarded?  Even all the reviews point out that the only flaw is a bit of a lack of power which Subaru is already addressing.

And it wouldnt be just marketing since owners say the same thing


Holy shit, people are dumb.



I don't need to drive it to know that it is missing 60-70hp IMO. No amount of nuthugging fanboys and magazine writers can change the cold hard physics involved. We've been through this several times. Stop trying to change my mind. I'm not disputing the handling, braking, and driving pleasure. It's missing power. Period.


EDIT: Here's some physics for you. The listed curb weight is 2600-2760lbs depending upon spec and options. Rounding up the Civic SI like 197hp to 200 and using a middle option 2700lbs gives us a 13.8-14.6 1/4 mile ET with a 96-98mph trap speed depending on which calculator you use. The ones with faster listed ET's are set up for drag cars that have nearly unlimited traction leaving the line. Most street cars (all stock ones really) can't hit those numbers. The second calculator uses a little slower 60ft which is better for street cars. It says 14.50. Any way you slice it most driver's will be in the 14's with the manual and the automatic will probably be right there as well.


That is SLOW as BALLS. Think stock fox body mustang slow. Think busted ass LT1 F-body slow. Think bolt on RCSB L76 Silverado slow. Get over it. I'm going to feel bad for you when someone goes out in one of these and gets stomped by a pickup truck.

This post was edited by FMX_89 on Jun 25 2012 02:57pm
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Jun 25 2012 03:33pm
Why are we still talking about power? Have you not comprehended anything I said? Subaru is fucking giving it more power, Jesus mother fucking Christ.
Also, in my previous post....... I said that all reviewers have pointed out the lack of power..... And even then they don't seem to mind

Not everyone buys a fucking car to race dickheads like yourself.


And sorry little child, your decisions and opinions are alway being influenced by someone else, period.


/end childish rage at unintelligent moron.

Ps, youre right, I don't know much about cars but I have common sense and can create a sensible argument

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Jun 25 2012 03:42pm
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Jun 25 2012 04:02pm
I bought it for a fun DD that can pick up good speed in back country roads and that looks sexy to me. Eye appealing to others. I didn't buy this car for racing or for the HP.

I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be hard to add 50-70 HP in it either with time...
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Jun 25 2012 04:09pm
Quote (Babolat @ Jun 25 2012 06:02pm)
I bought it for a fun DD that can pick up good speed in back country roads and that looks sexy to me. Eye appealing to others.  I didn't buy this car for racing or for the HP.

I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be hard to add 50-70 HP in it either with time...


70 HP (NA) isnt hard to add when its on a V8 or something bigger but a ~40% increase in power is a good bit to add without getting blown.
Quote (stupidkid282 @ Jun 25 2012 10:05am)
Now I know you're a moron. 

You haven't driven the car, I haven't driven the car, so all we have to go by are the experiences of other people.

Here's an analogy you might understand.  A movie comes out and receives an incredible amount of positive reviews and attention.  It might not be your cup of tea, but you figure you will go see it anyways to judge it on your own, but until you do that, you have to trust that those reviews are true.

Even reviewed of the brZ itself tell everyone to forget the sheets, forget the specs because this car has an incredibly better feeling than the cars they have driven.


You call him a moron and claim he is making up his opinions since he hasnt driven the car yet everything he said he based his opinion off of is factual data...





Oh, and congrats to subaru! The finally caught up to where Mazda was in 1990. Way to go!
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Jun 25 2012 04:17pm
Quote (AXIS @ Jun 25 2012 10:09pm)
70 HP (NA) isnt hard to add when its on a V8 or something bigger but a ~40% increase in power is a good bit to add without getting blown.


You call him a moron and claim he is making up his opinions since he hasnt driven the car yet everything he said he based his opinion off of is factual data...





Oh, and congrats to subaru! The finally caught up to where Mazda was in 1990. Way to go!


I'm not telling him he is making up his opinions.......learn to read.

But I'm going to take the opinions of people WHO HAVE ACTUALLY DRIVEN THE CAR rather than his theories...especially since all he cares about is more power.
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Jun 25 2012 04:21pm
Quote (FMX_89 @ Jun 25 2012 03:45pm)
No, we don't just have to go off of experiences by other people.  If you know anything about cars (it's glaringly obvious you don't) you can come to several accurate conclusions just by reading over the specs.

I don't go see a movie if it doesn't appeal to me.  Why the fuck would I spend $20 just to see if some critics are right?  I'll do the sensible thing and wait for it to come out on DVD.  On the contrary, most of the movies I enjoy get shitty reviews from the professional critics.  If the trailer looks good TO ME I'll go see it.  If it doesn't, I don't care how good THEY say it is, it is most likely not for me.


Just how impressionable are you?  Christ.





I don't need to drive it to know that it is missing 60-70hp IMO.  No amount of nuthugging fanboys and magazine writers can change the cold hard physics involved.  We've been through this several times.  Stop trying to change my mind.  I'm not disputing the handling, braking, and driving pleasure.  It's missing power.  Period.


EDIT: Here's some physics for you.  The listed curb weight is 2600-2760lbs depending upon spec and options.  Rounding up the Civic SI like 197hp to 200 and using a middle option 2700lbs gives us a 13.8-14.6 1/4 mile ET with a 96-98mph trap speed depending on which calculator you use.  The ones with faster listed ET's are set up for drag cars that have nearly unlimited traction leaving the line.  Most street cars (all stock ones really) can't hit those numbers.  The second calculator uses a little slower 60ft which is better for street cars.  It says 14.50.  Any way you slice it most driver's will be in the 14's with the manual and the automatic will probably be right there as well.


That is SLOW as BALLS.  Think stock fox body mustang slow. Think busted ass LT1 F-body slow.  Think bolt on RCSB L76 Silverado slow.  Get over it.  I'm going to feel bad for you when someone goes out in one of these and gets stomped by a pickup truck.


well thats not nice lol
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Jun 25 2012 04:21pm
Quote (stupidkid282 @ Jun 25 2012 10:05am)
Now I know you're a moron. 

You haven't driven the car, I haven't driven the car, so all we have to go by are the experiences of other people.


Quote (FMX_89 @ Jun 25 2012 02:15am)
I look at the car, its exterior, its weight, its setup, drivetrain, etc and make my own judgement.


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Jun 25 2012 04:22pm
Quote (AXIS @ Jun 25 2012 10:21pm)
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And?

you never REALLY know until you drive the car.....Numbers on a page will only go so far..More common sense.


Seriously, learn to fucking argue.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Jun 25 2012 04:23pm
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Jun 25 2012 04:30pm
Quote (stupidkid282 @ Jun 25 2012 05:22pm)
And?

you never REALLY know until you drive the car.....Numbers on a page will only go so far..More common sense.


Seriously, learn to fucking argue.


you have not driven the car either lol....

your arguing that he doesnt know what hes talking about because he hasnt driven the car and bashing him for it. Ironic that neither have you and your praiseing it

sounds like you need some debate lessons

This post was edited by TeaRs- on Jun 25 2012 04:33pm
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Jun 25 2012 04:39pm
Quote (TeaRs- @ Jun 25 2012 10:30pm)
you have not driven the car either lol....

your arguing that he doesnt know what hes talking about because he hasnt driven the car and bashing him for it. Ironic that neither have you and your praiseing it

sounds like you need some debate lessons


he hasn't taken the time to research it like i have...I'm not "bashing him" for not driving the car, I'm letting him know that his opinion, his numbers/specs of the car won't matter until he drives it.


http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9004


A great Review and a track day for a new FRS owner with GTR, M3, Skyline and other much faster cars previously owned.


read it....for once.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Jun 25 2012 04:40pm
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