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Jul 9 2012 03:07pm
I think praying to Mary is ok.
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Jul 9 2012 03:50pm
I'm sorry but why do you think it is ok to pray to a human?

Yes, Mary was chosen to bear Christ, but Jesus even says in the Bible "and greater works will you do than me."

Just because Mary bore Jesus as her child ON EARTH doesn't mean she is a God...
Mary didn't save you, Mary is not your messiah or savior or God. So by what means do you have to pray to a human?

That's like me pray to my brother or mother or something. Why do you put Mary on some high pedistal like you can't do better things than her?

Do I have to say it again? Even JESUS HIMSELF said "Greater works will you do than me."

If we will do greater work than Jesus that means we will definetly do greater works than Mary.

Praying to Mary is ludicrious and it is crazy that people actually think praying to a human is fine... And yes praying to Mary IS idolitry.
Satan tries to work his way into EVERYTHING and that includes the church. If satan can keep people from praying to the Lord than he knows he is getting somewhere.
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Jul 9 2012 04:21pm
Quote (SX-XiP @ 9 Jul 2012 16:07)
I think praying to Mary is ok.



This. Yes it is.

Mary is the mother of God, the mother of humanity. She is our spiritual mother. Its not just ok to pray her but very much encouraged

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This. Yes it is.

Mary is the mother of God, the mother of humanity. She is our spiritual mother. Its not just ok to pray her but very much encouraged


She is not your spiritual mother. Whoever told you has no clue what they are talking about.

Please state verses supporting this. If there are no verses that say praying to Mary is ok then NO IT ISN'T OK.
Give me ONE verse where is says God encourages praying to Mary.. Please. If you can't, than no it isn't true at all.

but there are several things saying "Pray only to the Lord your God", "Worship only the Lordy our God".

Mary is not the Mother of God lol... That's so so wrong is unbelievable.

John 1:1-2 (NKJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 Hewas in the beginning with God.

Where does it say in the beginning was Mary? If Mary was the mother of God.. Where is she? Do you even know what a spiritual mother is? She isn't the mother of humanity..
She is a child of God, just like you or me.

Mary is a mortal, Mary doesn't sit on God's throne in heaven.
Who is deceiving you with this? That is satan making him way into the church.

Catholic churches have taught that Mary is the highest of all human beings. This is down right FALSE!
Here are verses proving it.

Romans 2:11 (KJV)
For there is no respect of persons with God.

Acts 10:34 (NLT)
Then Peter replied, “I see very clearly that God shows no favoritism.

Luke 8:21 (KJV)
And he answered and said unto them, "My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it."

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Jul 9 2012 08:04pm
Necrotic,

Where in the bible does God authorize praying to Mary?
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Quote (Rushton @ Jul 10 2012 03:50am)
I'm sorry but why do you think it is ok to pray to a human?

Yes, Mary was chosen to bear Christ, but Jesus even says in the Bible "and greater works will you do than me."

Just because Mary bore Jesus as her child ON EARTH doesn't mean she is a God...
Mary didn't save you, Mary is not your messiah or savior or God. So by what means do you have to pray to a human?

That's like me pray to my brother or mother or something. Why do you put Mary on some high pedistal like you can't do better things than her?

Do I have to say it again? Even JESUS HIMSELF said "Greater works will you do than me."

If we will do greater work than Jesus that means we will definetly do greater works than Mary.

Praying to Mary is ludicrious and it is crazy that people actually think praying to a human is fine... And yes praying to Mary IS idolitry.
Satan tries to work his way into EVERYTHING and that includes the church. If satan can keep people from praying to the Lord than he knows he is getting somewhere.



i truly wish that d2jsp had a "like button", scratch that a "love button".


praying to Marry is a common mistake that Catholics make. Jesus is your savior not Marry, pray to him and him alone.
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Yes it is good to pray the virgin Mary, Mother of God and of the humanity. To help you to understand better, here is some awnsers to your questions: Is there any Biblical support for the belief of Catholics to call upon Mary to intercede to God on their behalf?

First of all, because Mary was the birth mother of the humanity of Jesus in who "the fullness of the deity (God) was pleased to dwell bodily," [Col. 1:19, 2:9] Catholics recognize the Virgin Mary as the Mother of God.

Secondly, because Mary was "favoured by God" [Lk. 1:30] when she was personally chosen by the Lord to become the mother of Jesus, God incarnated, Catholics believe that they have a greater chance of obtaining God's grace for their daily physical and spiritual needs by asking Mary to intercede on their behalf.

Thirdly, the above mentioned belief is partially based on the fact that Jesus is the King of kings and Mary, as the mother of the King, is the "queen mother." Then, when studying Jewish history, it is discovered that the institution of the "queen mother" was established during the reign of King Solomon.

In the Old Testament, we learn of the favoured position of the queen mother through the following words, "... then the king sat on his throne, and had a throne brought for the king's mother, and she sat on his right. Then she said, 'I have one small request to make of you, do not refuse me.' And the king said to her, 'Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.'" [1 Kgs. 2:19-20]

Following the reign of King Solomon, many of the kings kept this practice. The mother of the king, through who the king received his throne, was trusted as a confident and advisor. So important was the function of the queen mothers in the days of the Old Testament that their names were listed in the succession records of the kings of Judah. [See 1 Kgs 14:21, 15:13; 2 Kgs. 12:1, 14:2, 15:2, etc...]

Similar to the intercession of the Queen Mother, when a child desires a favour and cannot obtain it from his/her parents, frequently the child will make the request to the grandparent to intercede on his/her behalf, therefore obtaining the favour that was being sought. This does not mean that the child is seeking the parental favour from the grandparent. Rather, the child is seeking the intercession of the grandparents before the parents.

Furthermore, Catholics do not differentiate between the living (in this world) and the dead (those who departed) members of the Body of Christ (the fullness of the Church.) The fullness of the mystical Body of Christ is found in the union of all the saints, past and present, here below and those above in Heaven.

In view of the aforementioned, it cannot be denied that those who were called to Heaven, including Mary, are still alive in spirit in the Kingdom of God that coexists with our world. As some non-Catholics pray through their deceased parents, grandparents or other biological relatives, asking these beloved departed persons to intercede before God on their behalf, Catholics pray through Mary to Jesus, taking advantage of her blessed position as the Mother of God.

This Catholic action affirms the prophetic and Divinely inspired passage that is found in the Holy Bible where it states, "Surely, from now on all generations will call me blessed." [Lk. 1:47] All generations could not call Mary blessed if she was not actively involved in the progressive Divine Plan that continues to develop before our eyes.

Indeed, all generations have called the Blessed Virgin Mary blessed, including this one, because she has never stopped interceding on behalf of the world, her intercession obtaining endless miraculous cures and other favours. The role of Mary in the area of obtaining physical miraculous cures is well known and documented in Lourdes, France, this being only one of the many holy places where the grace of God has been manifested through the Virgin Mary at apparition sites.
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Jul 9 2012 08:14pm
Quote (nekrotic @ Jul 9 2012 10:10pm)
Yes it is good to pray the virgin Mary, Mother of God and of the humanity. To help you to understand better, here is some awnsers to your questions: Is there any Biblical support for the belief of Catholics to call upon Mary to intercede to God on their behalf?

First of all, because Mary was the birth mother of the humanity of Jesus in who "the fullness of the deity (God) was pleased to dwell bodily," [Col. 1:19, 2:9] Catholics recognize the Virgin Mary as the Mother of God.

Secondly, because Mary was "favoured by God" [Lk. 1:30] when she was personally chosen by the Lord to become the mother of Jesus, God incarnated, Catholics believe that they have a greater chance of obtaining God's grace for their daily physical and spiritual needs by asking Mary to intercede on their behalf.

Thirdly, the above mentioned belief is partially based on the fact that Jesus is the King of kings and Mary, as the mother of the King, is the "queen mother." Then, when studying Jewish history, it is discovered that the institution of the "queen mother" was established during the reign of King Solomon.

In the Old Testament, we learn of the favoured position of the queen mother through the following words, "... then the king sat on his throne, and had a throne brought for the king's mother, and she sat on his right. Then she said, 'I have one small request to make of you, do not refuse me.' And the king said to her, 'Make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you.'" [1 Kgs. 2:19-20]

Following the reign of King Solomon, many of the kings kept this practice. The mother of the king, through who the king received his throne, was trusted as a confident and advisor. So important was the function of the queen mothers in the days of the Old Testament that their names were listed in the succession records of the kings of Judah. [See 1 Kgs 14:21, 15:13; 2 Kgs. 12:1, 14:2, 15:2, etc...]

Similar to the intercession of the Queen Mother, when a child desires a favour and cannot obtain it from his/her parents, frequently the child will make the request to the grandparent to intercede on his/her behalf, therefore obtaining the favour that was being sought. This does not mean that the child is seeking the parental favour from the grandparent. Rather, the child is seeking the intercession of the grandparents before the parents.

Furthermore, Catholics do not differentiate between the living (in this world) and the dead (those who departed) members of the Body of Christ (the fullness of the Church.) The fullness of the mystical Body of Christ is found in the union of all the saints, past and present, here below and those above in Heaven.

In view of the aforementioned, it cannot be denied that those who were called to Heaven, including Mary, are still alive in spirit in the Kingdom of God that coexists with our world. As some non-Catholics pray through their deceased parents, grandparents or other biological relatives, asking these beloved departed persons to intercede before God on their behalf, Catholics pray through Mary to Jesus, taking advantage of her blessed position as the Mother of God.

This Catholic action affirms the prophetic and Divinely inspired passage that is found in the Holy Bible where it states, "Surely, from now on all generations will call me blessed." [Lk. 1:47] All generations could not call Mary blessed if she was not actively involved in the progressive Divine Plan that continues to develop before our eyes.

Indeed, all generations have called the Blessed Virgin Mary blessed, including this one, because she has never stopped interceding on behalf of the world, her intercession obtaining endless miraculous cures and other favours. The role of Mary in the area of obtaining physical miraculous cures is well known and documented in Lourdes, France, this being only one of the many holy places where the grace of God has been manifested through the Virgin Mary at apparition sites.


First of all, EVERYONE is favored by God.

God is no Respector of persons, and Mary is a person.

The Bible also clearly states that God's favor (grace) is available to everyone that believes and has faith in him.
Just off of those few statements, the entire belief has been tossed out the window.
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