They are not dead, they are in heavens in the kingdom of God.

What kind of faith do you have ?

According with your statement, nobody shold pray Jesus because he was crucified and died..

You seriously need prayers my brother..

I believe this is the christian fellowship forum where Christians come to talk in peace not to start heated arguments
one man may read the bible and come to the conclusion that excreting a poo and holding it in so much that it goes back into your body is sinning and a special part of hell shall be reserved for you from reading the verses which I'm afraid I can not name anymore im sure an avid christian from here can

The only verse I would ever truly quote is
"Therefore all things whatsoever would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them" matthew 7:12, see also lLke 6:31(numbers may not be accurate excuse me on that)
LiquidZerg if you truly believe then you would not be posting such ignorance imo and should deal with your petty trolling elsewhere



He's in my thoughts already and I'm sure numerous others from his real life or via jsp

This post was edited by Aidzz on Jun 19 2012 11:23am

You are very arrogant for being so uneducated. For you to say the Pope has not read the bible, is a very ignorant statement. The Pope knows more about the bible than you will ever know, and could take you to "Sunday School" any day of the week. I am not Catholic and I can admit to that.

Also, you are arguing something that means NOTHING. You can learn a lot from the apostle Paul. He speaks about people like you in Romans chapter 14. Debating about worthless issues, and causing division amongst ourselves. Catholics do not pray to Mary because she is God or savior. No catholic will ever tell you that's the reason they do. The way they view Mary is no different in how you offer prayer requests in your church for OTHER people to bring YOUR petitions to God. Is that wrong? Please stop with your judgments because they are very unfitting for the spiritual person you are trying to personify.

For the record, I am not Catholic, nor have I ever been Catholic. It seems you have a very bad idea of who Catholics are, and who they are not. The Catholic church does more for this world than any other church combined. The Catholic church brings more people into a knowledge of Christ than any other church. Take that into consideration before you start deciding on who is a Christian and who is not.

I can already see this poor mans retorts
The pope said AIDS was a myth and also banned condoms
people forget the POPE is human and makes mistakes like the rest of us maybe not as many but he has already changed his opinion on that.

Yes, churches and their leaders are human. We all make mistake. Life is a journey

This post was edited by nekrotic on Jun 19 2012 11:49am

sorry made me giggle

I forgive you my brother

You say this but are always quick to point a finger at people. Theology means something. A worthless issue is praying to Mary over Jesus Christ (like the Bible calls), yet you also come in here and want to call him out. There is a major difference between him interceding/praying for others. You are making assumptions of him and more assumptions of the Catholic Church. A knowledge of Christ and a personal relationship with Jesus Christ are 2 major different things.

Well it seems to me you are not well versed at all. I guess they don't teach about the rapture in a Catholic church.

Mary is dead right now, Jesus is not dead, he rose again. All believers who died are dead right now with the exception of Enoch and Elijah who God actually took before they saw death and gave them a glorified body. All the dead will only come to life in the second coming of Christ when he will come to take his church in the end days before the 7 year period of which Satan will rule this world.

1 Thess 4:13-17
But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.




The teachings of the Catholic church are very wrong, if Catholics don't even know what being born again is how can they call themselves Christians? If someone is not born again they will not see the kingdom of God, these are not my words but of Christ Jesus himself. The Catholic church creates their own rules and their own understanding, they do not follow God's plan but rather do what their own hearts desire. Bringing people to know Christ and saving people are 2 different things, the whole world already knows about Christ, but how many are saved? The Catholic church has many wrong teaches, the biggest of all the wrong teachings is that we have the power to save ourselves by doing good works, when the reality is we are only saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. Believers must separate themselves from wrong teachings.

Gal 1:7-9
which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.


I believe this is a very powerful verse when it comes to speaking out against false doctrine.

Eph 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.