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I know Trump cultists like pictures, so here's one:

http://www.newsbehavingbadly.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Trump-wiretap-tweets.png



Now read what Nunes said and try to figure out the difference.


You have to give the GOP credit, they're putting in 110% effort on trying to revive the "Trump didn't say x, he meant y" game from the campaign. They're having a much harder time distracting attention away from all of his flubs now that they can no longer spout off lies about Hillary Clinton's email use.
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I know Trump cultists like pictures, so here's one:

http://www.newsbehavingbadly.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Trump-wiretap-tweets.png



Now read what Nunes said and try to figure out the difference. Trump's accusations aren't being covered 24/7 because he claimed his associates were recorded because of incidental collection, and if that was his accusation, why would Obama be a bad(or sick) guy because intelligence agents were doing their job?



Blah, blah, blah. Since I'm such an obvious trump supporter. It's not my fault you're clueless to your biases. How about you read it again without your Hillary Clinton special edition glasses.
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Blah, blah, blah. Since I'm such an obvious trump supporter. It's not my fault you're clueless to your biases. How about you read it again without your Hillary Clinton special edition glasses.


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Lol
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Quote (IceMage @ Mar 22 2017 03:01pm)
I know Trump cultists like pictures, so here's one:

http://www.newsbehavingbadly.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Trump-wiretap-tweets.png



Now read what Nunes said and try to figure out the difference. Trump's accusations aren't being covered 24/7 because he claimed his associates were recorded because of incidental collection, and if that was his accusation, why would Obama be a bad(or sick) guy because intelligence agents were doing their job?


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A U.S. government source said it was logical, if not normal, that communications from Trump aides would have been incidentally intercepted by U.S. agencies after his election, given that they would have an interest in talking to foreign governments.


Why is this logical big brother?

It'd be interesting to see why is spying on Trumps transition team their job. I can understand vetting them for security clearance but why exactly were their phone calls being intercepted. It would be interesting to see the warrant and the reasoning behind it.

And you're right Obama probably had nothing to do with it, and even if he did i doubt there's sufficient proof to tie him to it. I'm surprised you haven't figured it out yet but Trump speaks in hyperbole.

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Quote (Landmine @ Mar 22 2017 05:10pm)
Blah, blah, blah. Since I'm such an obvious trump supporter. It's not my fault you're clueless to your biases. How about you read it again without your Hillary Clinton special edition glasses.


Nice non response to you being completely wrong.

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Why is this logical big brother?

It'd be interesting to see why is spying on Trumps transition team their job. I can understand vetting them for security clearance but why exactly were their phone calls being intercepted. It would be interesting to see the warrant and the reasoning behind it.

And you're right Obama probably had nothing to do with it, and even if he did i doubt there's sufficient proof to tie him to it. I'm surprised you haven't figured it out yet but Trump speaks in hyperbole.


Do you know what incidental means?

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If anything this report makes Trump look worse because it means the US was surveiling a country that had very close communications with the Trump campaign... hmm... can't think of any countries off the top of my head...

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Nice non response to you being completely wrong.



Do you know what incidental means?



Wrong.
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Why is this logical big brother?

It'd be interesting to see why is spying on Trumps transition team their job. I can understand vetting them for security clearance but why exactly where their phone calls being intercepted. It would be interesting to see the warrant and the reasoning behind it.

And you're right Obama probably had nothing to do with it, and even if he did i doubt there's proof sufficient to tie him to it. I'm surprised you haven't figured it out yet but Trump speaks in hyperbole.


They weren't spying on Trump's transition team, they were spying on foreign officials who talked on the phone with Trump's transition team. That's why it's incidental collection, the target of the collection was not Americans. The real talking point(at least for Republicans) from this latest release is why were these American names unmasked, and who did it.

There's a difference between hyperbole and straight up lies. Trump heard about communications from Trump tower being surveilled(probably from right-wing media), and since he knows nothing about the government or how intelligence agencies work, he immediately jumped to the worst conclusion possible, which was that Obama must have ordered his communications tapped. Now, any emotionally mature individual who managed to get elected president would then call the FBI and other agencies to determine what actually happened, but like the orange baby he is, he got on twitter instead.

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Quote (Voyaging @ Mar 22 2017 03:18pm)
Nice non response to you being completely wrong.



Do you know what incidental means?


I do. I also understand how this could be just a convenient excuse for spying on someone.

"Oh, we weren't spying on you, we were spying on the people that we knew your people are going to talk to"

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Quote (ofthevoid @ Mar 22 2017 05:24pm)
I do. I also understand how this could be just a convenient excuse for spying on someone.

"Oh, we weren't spying on you, we were spying on the people that we knew your people are going to talk to"

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So now you're just making things up with no evidence?

This post was edited by Voyaging on Mar 22 2017 04:25pm
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