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Jun 21 2012 10:12am
poulgaragr,

Realize that we're applying you're own method. You take this huge work that is the Bible, narrow it done to the verses that are sketchy when taken out of context, and in doing so claim that nothing in the Bible can be taken seriously. We, take all this blabbering you are pulling, point out how you cite youtube videos and out of context Bible verses as evidence, and completely ignore what you are saying.

What is there to refute? You're spewing Bible verses left in right and claim that individual verses completely negate the ENTIRE Bible. Should we apply the same logic to your holy book?

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poulgaragr,

Realize that we're applying you're own method.  You take this huge work that is the Bible, narrow it done to the verses that are sketchy when taken out of context, and in doing so claim that nothing in the Bible can be taken seriously. We, take all this blabbering you are pulling, point out how you cite youtube videos and out of context Bible verses as evidence, and completely ignore what you are saying.

What is there to refute? You're spewing Bible verses left in right and claim that individual verses completely negate the ENTIRE Bible.  Should we apply the same logic to your holy book?


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poulgaragr,

Realize that we're applying you're own method.  You take this huge work that is the Bible, narrow it done to the verses that are sketchy when taken out of context, and in doing so claim that nothing in the Bible can be taken seriously. We, take all this blabbering you are pulling, point out how you cite youtube videos and out of context Bible verses as evidence, and completely ignore what you are saying.

What is there to refute? You're spewing Bible verses left in right and claim that individual verses completely negate the ENTIRE Bible.  Should we apply the same logic to your holy book?


show me, mr hypocrite, WHERE this is taken out of context:

*Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, “Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to the whole creation. 16 He that believes and is baptised shall be saved; but he that disbelieves shall be condemned. 17 Believers will be given the power to perform miracles; in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will pick up serpents; and when they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

Now, here is an interesting piece of information:

In the most ancient manuscripts, Mark 16 ends at verse 8! 9-20 is missing. These last 11 verses were added in the 10th century, because the Gospel according to Mark, which was the first Gospel ever written (and then again 65 years after Jesus, when all the disciples were already dead), doesn't mention the resurrection, nor does it mention the ascension of Jesus Christ.

Thus, apart from the last 2 points, we have a dilemma here:

1-Admit that the Bible has been altered, thus corrupted.
2-Take the poison test to prove you are a true Christian believer.
3-Refuse to take the poison test, thus proving you are not a true Christian Believer!

And believe me, there is NO EXCUSE out of this! In my experience, I have encountered lots of missionaries and regular Christians who try (in vain) and make up excuses like: “You are tempting God”, or “These miracles were only meant for the disciples”, or “the disciples already performed these miracles, and so did Paul when he was bitten by a snake”...

However, ALL OF THESE EXCUSES are already refuted by Jesus who CLEARLY SAYS: “believers” (all those who are baptised etc.) will be able to perform these miracles”, thus, there is truly NO WAY OUT OF THIS!

Case Closed.

PS I will keep hammering you with this until you admit that you are wrong and your fake religion is just that: FAKE!!!
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Jun 21 2012 10:23am
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Do realize that all of you have produced NOT A SINGLE refutation to my genuine arguments, and you NEVER will be able to. And here's the simple reason why:

And say: "Truth (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism or this Qur'ân or Jihâd against polytheists) has come and Bâtil (falsehood, i.e. Satan or polytheism) has vanished. Surely! Bâtil is ever bound to vanish." / Qur'an 17:81
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Jun 21 2012 10:24am
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As I previously mentioned (but you are too brain-washed into noticing, apparently), I don't believe that the whole Bible is the word of God. On the contrary, I strongly believe that MOST of it is pure BS, written by the enemies of God and His pure monotheistic religion: Islam

As I CLEARLY say in my profile, I am a Muslim, which means I abide by the Qur'an and Strong Sunna (sound Hadiths, not weak ones).

You, my friend, have FAILED to bring a single argument to refute a single word I said; all you did was throw your dogmatic nonsense here and there.

You see, that's the problem the non-Muslim (a.k.a. a person who follows conjectures, falsehood, etc.): When cornered with the truth, you lash out (like a scared cat that has nowhere to go) with pure BS!

I have proven my words with SOLID arguments, yet YOU?

(better if I don't comment :rofl:)


I don't care about the Bible, though. I don't consider it to be the word of God. That's not what I'm addressing.

I'm addressing the LIE in your signature.
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Jun 21 2012 10:25am
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Oh, REALLY??? Let's SEE what JESUS (the fake one, I remind you) told his disciples: Contrary to your dogmatic beliefs, Jesus was not planning on “accepting his fate” by waiting for the Jews to arrest him,as we see that he even prepared his disciples in case a fight was necessary:

35 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” “Nothing,” they answered. 36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. / Luke 22:35-36

Question: What would Jesus and his disciples do with these swords? According to the Christians, Jesus was the “peace-maker”, yet here we see him giving the order for his disciples to arm themselves! And you definitely don't use swords to pare apples and bananas! Swords are used for combat, and combat alone! However, Jesus hadn't predicted a battle against highly-trained Roman soldiers, thus this explains why he thought that “two swords would be enough” (Luke 22:35-38).

Once again, the Muslim knows the Bible BETTER than the Christian who "defends it" without any knowledge, and without giving references :rofl:


Honestly, I don't have time for this. You're a pretty bad troll and it's only a matter of time before you're banned from the forum.
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Jun 21 2012 10:27am
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Do realize that all of you have produced NOT A SINGLE refutation to my genuine arguments, and you NEVER will be able to. And here's the simple reason why:

And say: "Truth (i.e. Islâmic Monotheism or this Qur'ân or Jihâd against polytheists) has come and Bâtil (falsehood, i.e. Satan or polytheism) has vanished. Surely! Bâtil is ever bound to vanish." / Qur'an  17:81


you do realize that you're just as fucking crazy as the christians , right ?
ofc you dont , and neither do they

well , when a horse is lame , you put it down i say
cant wait for the blessed day you are all gone
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show me, mr hypocrite, WHERE this is taken out of context:

*Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, “Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to the whole creation. 16 He that believes and is baptised shall be saved; but he that disbelieves shall be condemned. 17 Believers will be given the power to perform miracles; in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues; 18 they will pick up serpents; and when they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover.”

Now, here is an interesting piece of information:

In the most ancient manuscripts, Mark 16 ends at verse 8! 9-20 is missing. These last 11 verses were added in the 10th century, because the Gospel according to Mark, which was the first Gospel ever written (and then again 65 years after Jesus, when all the disciples were already dead), doesn't mention the resurrection, nor does it mention the ascension of Jesus Christ.

Thus, apart from the last 2 points, we have a dilemma here:

1-Admit that the Bible has been altered, thus corrupted.
2-Take the poison test to prove you are a true Christian believer.
3-Refuse to take the poison test, thus proving you are not a true Christian Believer!

And believe me, there is NO EXCUSE out of this! In my experience, I have encountered lots of missionaries and regular Christians who try (in vain) and make up excuses like: “You are tempting God”, or “These miracles were only meant for the disciples”, or “the disciples already performed these miracles, and so did Paul when he was bitten by a snake”...

However, ALL OF THESE EXCUSES are already refuted by Jesus who CLEARLY SAYS: “believers” (all those who are baptised etc.) will be able to perform these miracles”, thus, there is truly NO WAY OUT OF THIS!

Case Closed.

PS I will keep hammering you with this until you admit that you are wrong and your fake religion is just that: FAKE!!!


http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html

Have you fought and killed any infidels lately?
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http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html

Have you fought and killed any infidels lately?


Even worse bullshit out-of-context drops of scripture than this guy's bullshit.

Congrats on ratcheting up the stupidity.
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Even worse bullshit out-of-context drops of scripture than this guy's bullshit. 

Congrats on ratcheting up the stupidity.


If you read back a few pages I posted this same link with a remark that anything can be misconstrued if taken out of context.

Calm your horses their champ. Walk it off.

Edit: Actually I must have posted this in another thread of his that was pretty much the same thing. "Bible is wrong, etc etc.."



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