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Jan 14 2023 11:44am
Started playing some LS recently but really have no clue what I'm doing what so ever....I'm a lvl 22 magician but I honestly don't know what I should be looking for on my gear that drops and how to use the things in town that sound like they might be useful to me. wonder if someone would be able to take the time to give me some advice and help, Thanks
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Jan 14 2023 12:56pm
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=82660445&f=272

Read that. Then use you magician as a mule to store stuff and make a new character (I recommend barbarian or rogue)

Get a weapon at tier III with enhanced effect (the more the better), armor with enhanced effect (the more the better), and strength charm (the more the better)

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Jan 14 2023 12:57pm
well. since the last time you played there was a reset, so there isn't even that now.
Resets happen when a player passes alchemist which on softcore happens about 4 times a year.
I have absolutely no idea how you made it to level 22 with that gear though.


Anyway, in general, don't do a mage as first class, nothing necessarily wrong with it, just a bit more difficult than running a barb.
If you decide on a mage, i suggest this guide: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84489168&f=74
if you decide on a barb we generally recommend this guide: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=82660445&f=272


Main thing which is out of date is both price guides.
These prices are significantly closer, https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=96505279&f=272

But in general, you'll probably want to spend ~50 fg to get items to get you to lvl 35+ where you will regularly find items which will then sell.
I recommend the barb.
Good luck!

For getting into the game, i recommend on your first climb to go all the way to level 71 and MQ this will reset your level and give you a chance to unlock the samurai.
If you're only interested in using LS to earn fg, then i recommend you reach level 55, then avoid levelling further, do this by dying when you reach 80% exp until you exp drops to around 20%. Rinse and repeat. If you spend long enough doing this you can earn 100's and 1000's of fg.

This is because fighting mobs level 65+ are WAY WAY harder and have no benefit over mobs of lvl 64, and fighting lvl 64 mobs is only marginally better than lvl 55 mobs, but the difficulty is again much harder, hence the lvl 55 recommendation.


One of the biggest things which confuses new players is that you need to change gear regularly. a tier 3 weapon with 60ee does significantly less damage than a tier 5 weapon with 40ee.
Should aim to change gear every 10 levels or so
Level 1: tier 3 weapon ~40+ee
Level 10: lvl 10 weapon ~40+ee
level 20: lvl 20 weapon ~40+ee
level 30: lvl 30 weapon ~40+ee
level 40: lvl 40 weapon ~40+ee
level 50/55: lvl 50/500 weapon 40+ ee

Similarly a tier 3 armor with 60ee has significantly less armor than a tier 5 with 40ee.
On a charm, the amount of strength is the only thing which matters, aim for ~12-15 at tier 3, around 20-25 for level 15-20 and possibly 35+ for level 50-55.

This post was edited by Bigheaded on Jan 14 2023 01:02pm
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Jan 14 2023 01:03pm
Quote (CARTRACK @ Jan 14 2023 01:56pm)
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=82660445&f=272

Read that. Then use you magician as a mule to store stuff and make a new character (I recommend barbarian or rogue)

Get a weapon at tier III with enhanced effect (the more the better), armor with enhanced effect (the more the better), and strength charm (the more the better)


Quote (Bigheaded @ Jan 14 2023 01:57pm)
well. since the last time you played there was a reset, so there isn't even that now.
Resets happen when a player passes alchemist which on softcore happens about 4 times a year.
I have absolutely no idea how you made it to level 22 with that gear though.


Anyway, in general, don't do a mage as first class, nothing necessarily wrong with it, just a bit more difficult than running a barb.
If you decide on a mage, i suggest this guide: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=84489168&f=74
if you decide on a barb we generally recommend this guide: https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=82660445&f=272


Main thing which is out of date is both price guides.
These prices are significantly closer, https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=96505279&f=272

But in general, you'll probably want to spend ~50 fg to get items to get you to lvl 35+ where you will regularly find items which will then sell.
I recommend the barb.
Good luck!

For getting into the game, i recommend on your first climb to go all the way to level 71 and MQ this will reset your level and give you a chance to unlock the samurai.
If you're only interested in using LS to earn fg, then i recommend you reach level 55, then avoid levelling further, do this by dying when you reach 80% exp until you exp drops to around 20%. Rinse and repeat. If you spend long enough doing this you can earn 100's and 1000's of fg.

This is because fighting mobs level 65+ are WAY WAY harder and have no benefit over mobs of lvl 64, and fighting lvl 64 mobs is only marginally better than lvl 55 mobs, but the difficulty is again much harder, hence the lvl 55 recommendation.


thank you both for the Info. im not really set on any char i just randomly picked wizard for something to try. and i dont care about making fg just wanna try and complete the game and maybe rack up a few LS points
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Jan 14 2023 01:56pm
Level 1: tier 3 weapon ~40+ee
Level 10: lvl 10 weapon ~40+ee
level 20: lvl 20 weapon ~40+ee
level 30: lvl 30 weapon ~40+ee
level 40: lvl 40 weapon ~40+ee
level 50/55: lvl 50/500 weapon 40+ ee

Similarly a tier 3 armor with 60ee has significantly less armor than a tier 5 with 40ee.
On a charm, the amount of strength is the only thing which matters, aim for ~12-15 at tier 3, around 20-25 for level 15-20 and possibly 35+ for level 50-55.

Sow ith this being said would a teir 3 wep with no EE be better then a teir 1 with EE?
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Jan 14 2023 03:12pm
Quote (ViperLLD @ Jan 14 2023 07:56pm)
Level 1: tier 3 weapon ~40+ee
Level 10: lvl 10 weapon ~40+ee
level 20: lvl 20 weapon ~40+ee
level 30: lvl 30 weapon ~40+ee
level 40: lvl 40 weapon ~40+ee
level 50/55: lvl 50/500 weapon 40+ ee

Similarly a tier 3 armor with 60ee has significantly less armor than a tier 5 with 40ee.
On a charm, the amount of strength is the only thing which matters, aim for ~12-15 at tier 3, around 20-25 for level 15-20 and possibly 35+ for level 50-55.

Sow ith this being said would a teir 3 wep with no EE be better then a teir 1 with EE?


yes.

in fact a tier 1 would in theory need 200% ee to match a tier 3 weapon, but we're talking extremes here. As there would be a second issue with a 200ee t1

anyway, should be clear that the sword really outdamages the club:


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Jan 14 2023 03:16pm
Quote (Bigheaded @ Jan 14 2023 04:12pm)
yes.

in fact a tier 1 would in theory need 200% ee to match a tier 3 weapon, but we're talking extremes here. As there would be a second issue with a 200ee t1

anyway, should be clear that the sword really outdamages the club:

https://i.imgur.com/szOujdf.png


yea I planned on swapping the club out for the sword when I logged back in. now is a sword or.club or axe best base to try and find?
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Jan 14 2023 03:22pm
Quote (ViperLLD @ Jan 14 2023 09:16pm)
yea I planned on swapping the club out for the sword when I logged back in. now is a sword or.club or axe best base to try and find?


club due to using strength/dex ratios better.

sword/axe are pretty much the same, axe has a better damage range and better crit rate, sword will have slightly higher total damage than the club in return.

As i said, buy tier 3 items, looks like you bought some tier 1/2's
or can wait till level 5 and buy tier 4 for 1 fg each.
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Jan 14 2023 03:25pm
Quote (Bigheaded @ Jan 14 2023 04:22pm)
club due to using strength/dex ratios better.

sword/axe are pretty much the same, axe has a better damage range and better crit rate, sword will have slightly higher total damage than the club in return.

As i said, buy tier 3 items, looks like you bought some tier 1/2's
or can wait till level 5 and buy tier 4 for 1 fg each.


yea hopefully once I lvl up once more I can buy a little better wep/armor and be good for another 5 lvls or so
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