Looks like D4 PVP is Dead = Game is dead before it is released.

Isn't Diablo supposed to be about dead stuff, death etc.?

I don’t play this type of game for pvp

if you're pessimist it doesnt mean we all have to be

I will play the game as well as many others for sure, no matter what

dude its a game afterall, you're expecting another diablo to survive for a lot of years, but in most of the cases old school is here and we all know games like d2 will be almost impossible to make anymore, you are expecting way too much on a game

just enjoy it as much as you can and then move on, there are plenty and plenty of games to be played, dont put all your eggs in one basket

I spent over 100 hours in the pvp zone in Diablo 4. It's the best pvp experience I've had in a game in a long time.

Dunno where you get your info from..

This

Do you know why Diablo 2 itself survived for 30+ years?

Because Pvp existed. You nerds farming all day to sell your trash to others who would use them for pvp.

I didn’t play all day unlike y’all doing pvp. D2 pvp is trash anyways. Not even a few thousand were willing to play it.

Yes D2r was a thing to cash in on peoples nostalgia but you aren't seriously trying to say D2 was "alive" before D2R are you?

If we are truly being honest the population was total trash and just because a games servers are still up does not mean its not dead. 8 people playing PVP does not make for a thriving game, its not even on life support at that point, its just dead and that's what D2 was except maybe a few weeks at ladder reset time and those people are playing PVE.

I am a huge PVP supporter and wont play without it but I am not going to sit here and lie and say that Diablo stayed alive because of PVP. No it stayed alive because it was a zero investment from Blizzard, its population was horrible and the vast majority was just bots.