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Sep 28 2022 03:43am
I just found a barb helmet with 3 warcries, 2 battle orders, 1 battle cry and 3 find item which got 2 sockets.
Any reason to use this one over Shako on a pit zerker?

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Sep 28 2022 07:44am
Well, I think you would have to crunch some numbers. Having 6 to find item is nice, but likely increases your find item % by just 1%. You lose 25% MF. You lose 10DR. You would have to do the math of 2skills versus 5bo for mana/life lose or change from the bonus life and mana from shako. So, if the 25%MF doesnt make you hit another MF breakpoint, maybe the 1% increase in find item is worth it over 10k or 20k or 50k runs.
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Sep 28 2022 09:08am
Quote (endur1ty @ 28 Sep 2022 05:43)
I just found a barb helmet with 3 warcries, 2 battle orders, 1 battle cry and 3 find item which got 2 sockets.
Any reason to use this one over Shako on a pit zerker?

Thanks! :-)


For me, style is an important part of grinding. In order to keep at it with a character, I have to feel like it is somehow cool or unique. I'd probably use that helm with 2 ists and just eat the losses from not having Shako. At the end of the day if two different barbs finish a holy grail, it'll be the cooler geared one who really wins ^_^
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Sep 28 2022 11:22am
Quote (ahhabee @ Sep 28 2022 03:44pm)
Well, I think you would have to crunch some numbers. Having 6 to find item is nice, but likely increases your find item % by just 1%. You lose 25% MF. You lose 10DR. You would have to do the math of 2skills versus 5bo for mana/life lose or change from the bonus life and mana from shako. So, if the 25%MF doesnt make you hit another MF breakpoint, maybe the 1% increase in find item is worth it over 10k or 20k or 50k runs.


I see. I was hoping it was possible to answer with a simple yes/no :-D I just found the thing today (on a paladin) - not really sure if I wanna go for a pit zerker yet.

Quote (Belarathon @ Sep 28 2022 05:08pm)
For me, style is an important part of grinding. In order to keep at it with a character, I have to feel like it is somehow cool or unique. I'd probably use that helm with 2 ists and just eat the losses from not having Shako. At the end of the day if two different barbs finish a holy grail, it'll be the cooler geared one who really wins ^_^


Good point. I totally regret making my enigma in a mage plate, lol.

TIt's just oo bad the barb helmet is a fury visor hahah.
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Oct 7 2022 05:01am
Quote (ahhabee @ 28 Sep 2022 14:44)
Well, I think you would have to crunch some numbers. Having 6 to find item is nice, but likely increases your find item % by just 1%. You lose 25% MF. You lose 10DR. You would have to do the math of 2skills versus 5bo for mana/life lose or change from the bonus life and mana from shako. So, if the 25%MF doesnt make you hit another MF breakpoint, maybe the 1% increase in find item is worth it over 10k or 20k or 50k runs.


There is no such thing as MF Breakpoints
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Oct 10 2022 02:17am
probably nop
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