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Sep 27 2022 07:37am
I talked about D4 with a bunch of friends today. Almost all of them thought that a cosmetic shop is not a bad idea and wouldnt change anything.

I do not agree with that.

I think that a cosmetic shop drastically changes how I as a player experience a game.

For example, I cant stand the no pants dogshit outfits in PoE.

PoE is an overall pretty fair game with almost no P2W (almost), but what it also shows is, that characters look like idiots and that this really inspires or almost provokes people into spending money just to not look like a total moron.

D4 could have the same fate. The game of course has bigger issues...much bigger issues if I look at the itemization, but still the shop is worth discussing as well.

Its not like a cosmetic shop wouldnt influence the game imho.
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Sep 27 2022 10:37am
I thought the same. Having payed content discriminate the players, not matter is it cosmetic only or not.
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Sep 27 2022 11:31am
Quote (Madmaxio @ Sep 27 2022 06:37pm)
I thought the same. Having payed content discriminate the players, not matter is it cosmetic only or not.


Absolutely. Especially if I paid 70 or 80 bucks for that game. I get it with PoE, its a free game after all, but D4 will be a full price game and that makes it a different story.
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Sep 27 2022 01:26pm
name any anything where u cant get ANY benefit or also an advantage by simply spending few more bucks. there is no impact at all if u look different so its okay as it is. if u want to know how it feels to lose because some1 spends all his money while u enjoy f2p, try diablo immortal.

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Sep 27 2022 10:38pm
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name any anything where u cant get ANY benefit or also an advantage by simply spending few more bucks. there is no impact at all if u look different so its okay as it is. if u want to know how it feels to lose because some1 spends all his money while u enjoy f2p, try diablo immortal.


I will not try shit like immortal.

No impact is not true. Looking different obviously makes an impact and is important for many players.
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Sep 28 2022 03:02am
Quote (Modulok2405 @ 28 Sep 2022 06:38)
I will not try shit like immortal.

No impact is not true. Looking different obviously makes an impact and is important for many players.


do u deal more dmg? will looking better improve ur survivability? will u level faster? will u gain any other stats/skills/benefits? this is maybe a psychological thing but wont affect the effectivity of ur char in any way. if u dont like it, dont use it but dont say people would buy any advantages just by investing in a transmog. :bonk:
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Sep 28 2022 04:21am
Money first for blizzard
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do u deal more dmg? will looking better improve ur survivability? will u level faster? will u gain any other stats/skills/benefits? this is maybe a psychological thing but wont affect the effectivity of ur char in any way. if u dont like it, dont use it but dont say people would buy any advantages just by investing in a transmog. :bonk:


You know what?

Its fine. If you don't mind, if your char is looking like Homer Simpson or some underwear hero while playing the game, that's fine.
I personally prefer having access to ALL designs Blizzard creates for the game because I paid for the full price for the damn game, okay?[/QUOTE]

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Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 27 2022 08:37am)
I talked about D4 with a bunch of friends today. Almost all of them thought that a cosmetic shop is not a bad idea and wouldnt change anything.

I do not agree with that.

I think that a cosmetic shop drastically changes how I as a player experience a game.

For example, I cant stand the no pants dogshit outfits in PoE.

PoE is an overall pretty fair game with almost no P2W (almost), but what it also shows is, that characters look like idiots and that this really inspires or almost provokes people into spending money just to not look like a total moron.

D4 could have the same fate. The game of course has bigger issues...much bigger issues if I look at the itemization, but still the shop is worth discussing as well.

Its not like a cosmetic shop wouldnt influence the game imho.


TF is p2w in poe?
FG and shit don't count.
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