England for the English only has worked for thousands of years....

Truss just broke the UK economy for generations.
Government borrowing interest rates have increased dramatically and the value of the £ has fallen to record lows.

To those who said Scotland is too small to be independent. Or that Scotland is better together with England.

What would they say now? Irelands economy booming and they don't actually produce anything. No offense Ireland.

Should Scotland remain and have another unelected Tory PM destroy economic prosperity for future generations?

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Sep 29 2022 02:39am

How is it a bad thing ?

As you just said eu is going to shit. If we see european geographic countries, all the top countries there aren't in eu (hi Sweiss)

Wanting to return into a sinking ship would be a very bad move imo

The expression England for the English could be seen as racist. However, the fact is, from the outside looking in, it looks more like "England... for the Rich English only. I cannot fathom why everyone else in England would want to live like this.

England for the Rich English:

Here is a link to support my comment : https://equalitytrust.org.uk/scale-economic-inequality-uk
and another link here: https://www.ft.com/content/d52743ca-c669-4c71-941f-8281230a21b5
and to make the triple: https://www.bigissue.com/news/social-justice/what-you-need-to-know-about-uk-inequality/

Migrants out:

Here is a link to support the view that the Government is aiding and abetting a narrative of exclusion:

https://www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk/fundamental/hostile-environment/
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-43782241

In a country where the narrative is EU BAD ENGLAND GOOD and where "foreigners" that have contributed to englands growth (for decades) are kicked out, it is no wonder that an element of England for the English makes its way here. Such a narrative has been spoon fed to the english people for decades now. its simply wrong and is masking the profound issue of social inequality, keeping the rich on top and the poor in the gutter.



Nobody in their right mind should want to see England collapse. Or France, or Germany, or America (or China or Russia). Whether they are the EU or not, they are a great country and I would much rather have sound neighbors then destitute ones. I view this the same way I view America's "bringing democracy to the world". The running idea as i understand it is, if you bring democracy to the world, the world will conform to your way of thinking, and you can work with the world. In this way I would be of the running view : bringing social equality to the world sothat the world has agreed principles on equality. in this regard I view the conservative party in england as a dead end and the sooner voters realize this, the better for england as a whole.



I would not say that the government broke the UK economy for generations. I would say the markets are not happy, they dont understand or agree with the plan and they are very skeptical on whether this will result in a recovery. I stand by the view that something had to to done and this was the most obvious choice. From a historical standpoint it may work, but that the distribution of wealth will only widen further, and in this regard its perpetuating the notion of England for the Rich English only.

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 29 2022 05:54am

All lies.
They are intentionally bringing in your replacements.
Only whites are English.

There is nothing to gain from rejoining eu lol. Europe was fine with 6, maximum 12 countries. Now it's a total mess runned by people nobody voted for.
As for democracy magically bringing unity, hell that's exactly the reverse of reality. Sadly democratic systems are very slow moving while autoritarians ones are faster since nobody can discuss anything.

I did not say anywhere that england would rejoin the EU. They won't, its not a topic of debate. The democracy comment was an analogy, no need to delve further about it here, i dont disagree with your closing comment.

i just pray Scotland leaves UK and joins EU. would be top kek funny to watch.

thats a conversation for this time next year, as i understand it.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/01/voters-abandon-tories-as-faith-in-economic-competence-dives

"Conservative MPs urge Liz Truss’s removal from No 10 after poll reveals British public’s fury over tax plans...Conservative party rules state that a new leader is protected from a no-confidence vote for a year. However, leading rebels point out that neither Johnson or May were forced out by a confidence vote..."

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nothing unusual here. just the first of many nudges for Truss to go.