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Jul 27 2022 07:53am
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ 27 Jul 2022 15:46)
Items are worth the same in terms of the relationship to each other regardless of botting.

The only thing that changes is the $ value and fg value.

Botting is good for the economy.

Long live botting.


Botting is good for the botter's economy - not for everybody else's. Just like in real life.
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Jul 27 2022 08:35am
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Botting is good for the botter's economy - not for everybody else's. Just like in real life.



It’s good for everyone. Keeps prices low enough for new entrants to the market.

Keeps prices low enough where pvp are willing to buy gear, which is most of the market anyway.

Regardless of price of Ber being 10,000 or 1,000, Ber is still worth x amount of Vexs, regardless of how much either one costs.

The only thing that changes is the price in terms of fg or $. But their value in relationship to each other remains the same.
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Jul 27 2022 10:29am
Quote (Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins @ 27 Jul 2022 16:35)
It’s good for everyone. Keeps prices low enough for new entrants to the market.

Keeps prices low enough where pvp are willing to buy gear, which is most of the market anyway.

Regardless of price of Ber being 10,000 or 1,000, Ber is still worth x amount of Vexs, regardless of how much either one costs.

The only thing that changes is the price in terms of fg or $. But their value in relationship to each other remains the same.


People should not buy items from day 1. People should learn to play the game from the beginning with little free stuff, to get acquainted with the game and learn it from the ground up. There's nothing wrong with a little bit of free items, but telling people they should buy fg to buy gear is really stupid. Buying the game should be the only money necessary to spend on a game. A good game doesn't need someone to start out fully decked having spend 500$ on expensive gear... or even 1$. That's completely ridiculous.

Pvp can and should be played and enjoyed without having to spend money on gear. Iti s possible. My opinion is that the pvp scene is so toxic and harrassing because there are rich people creating this herarchy of stigmatization just to bully people into buying high-end expensive gear to line their pockets.

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Jul 27 2022 11:08am
Who care when the game is only bot.
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Jul 27 2022 11:55am
Quote (Taurean @ Jul 27 2022 12:29pm)
People should not buy items from day 1. People should learn to play the game from the beginning with little free stuff, to get acquainted with the game and learn it from the ground up. There's nothing wrong with a little bit of free items, but telling people they should buy fg to buy gear is really stupid. Buying the game should be the only money necessary to spend on a game. A good game doesn't need someone to start out fully decked having spend 500$ on expensive gear... or even 1$. That's completely ridiculous.

Pvp can and should be played and enjoyed without having to spend money on gear. Iti s possible. My opinion is that the pvp scene is so toxic and harrassing because there are rich people creating this herarchy of stigmatization just to bully people into buying high-end expensive gear to line their pockets.


with bots shako = um rune without bots shako = um rune. Both items without bots costs $99999999999999 both items with bots cost 1$.

Never heard it explained like bui is saying, but it makes a lot of sense.

Bots > mfing for countless hours

save yourself some time in your life. Unless all you want to do is pvm then just pvm and don't even trade. But pvm sucks and pvp is the only reason to continue playing the game. Who wants to do 10,000 baal runs that are the same every time just to level once. Whats even the point of leveling if not for pvp? Pvm the game can be finished in like 2 hours.
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Quote (staragsj @ 27 Jul 2022 19:55)
with bots shako = um rune without bots shako = um rune. Both items without bots costs $99999999999999 both items with bots cost 1$.

Never heard it explained like bui is saying, but it makes a lot of sense.

Bots > mfing for countless hours

save yourself some time in your life. Unless all you want to do is pvm then just pvm and don't even trade. But pvm sucks and pvp is the only reason to continue playing the game. Who wants to do 10,000 baal runs that are the same every time just to level once. Whats even the point of leveling if not for pvp? Pvm the game can be finished in like 2 hours.


No. If you find 10 x harlequin crest, even if you have 0 fg and 0 bots, and you need an amn rune to make a new insight in a better base, you would trade it. Trading is situational based, but there should of course always be clearly known what the value of things are.

To you.

You don't need to mf for countless hours in order to enjoy a great game.

Pvm doesn't suck. Try hardcore, with only bowazon during a ladder season, and don't trade for gear or at least on a minimalistic level. Let's see how long you survive.

Nobody says you have to do 10 000 baalruns... you do not need to be level 99 in order to fully enjoy the game.

This post was edited by Taurean on Jul 27 2022 01:55pm
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Jul 27 2022 03:31pm
why dont they just FIX pvp then people would actually play the game :angel:
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Jul 28 2022 05:21am
Quote (Taurean @ Jul 27 2022 08:53am)
Botting is good for the botter's economy - not for everybody else's. Just like in real life.


Everybody else has a choice. Just like real life.
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Jul 28 2022 07:40am
Quote (BoomTittys @ 28 Jul 2022 13:21)
Everybody else has a choice. Just like real life.


"But the problem is that when we went to school, they didn't train you to be a business owner. They trained you to be an employee. Working for the rich."

- Robert Kiyosaki


My point is of course that if we are untrained in the discipline of business, we are easily taken and everything looks like a good deal.
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Jul 28 2022 10:17am
Quote (Taurean @ Jul 28 2022 08:40am)
"But the problem is that when we went to school, they didn't train you to be a business owner. They trained you to be an employee. Working for the rich."

- Robert Kiyosaki


My point is of course that if we are untrained in the discipline of business, we are easily taken and everything looks like a good deal.


When i went to school i learned basic math and developed common sense. with these two things you can be a business owner.

Every deal is decided with basic math and common sense. If you can't decide if it's good or not then it's not good.


The issue is people open businesses based off their interest instead of businesses the market needs.

Same can be applied to Diablo. People MF when services pay more. People do services when bots pay more. If you want to make money do what the market bears
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