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Aug 6 2022 12:23am
Quote (Soul Snatcha @ Aug 5 2022 11:20pm)
Once again. Noone said it isnt p2w LOL holy crap my dude. I really can't with you LOL you and your butt buddy are a special kind of people.


Quote (Soul Snatcha @ Aug 5 2022 10:43pm)
I'm glad you're on the first step of realizing what I say. Maybe you're just so used to saying "p2w" you forget what it actually means. Pay To Win. Whether its 90%, 70% 20%. The second you pay into a character, with forum gold INCLUDED, the moment you are 20% more effective than the "f2p" guy, you have just PAID TO WIN. are you understanding why you're argument this entire time has contradicted itself? Bro, I'm so far past arguing with you because NOONE has said the game is NOT "p2w". You're trying to ignore the fact all games are set up this way. Imagine starting Diablo 2. Go mf. You cannot buy a single piece of gear off d2jsp. Nothing. You must find EVERYTHING yourself. Build a dueler. Now go duel a guy that just bought an enigma, whatever. Please. Tell me who wins that? Tell me your "f2p" player, who mfed EVERYTHING himself, stands even 1% chance vs the other guy.

50k va 5k fg build is "p2w" vs "p2w". Show me a 5k build that beats a 50k on stream. Please. That isnt even gonna happen and you play d2 for 20 years like me, you'd know that.

You fail to realize this entire time your "facts" about DI are biased and opinionated. That is not a fact. You build only evidence, based on 3 YouTube videos. That is not a fact. Because 5 million people with BIASED opinions hate the game, doesn't make it fact!

People can play the game to their caliber and you either like it or lump it. Clearly you're mad someone else is enjoying the game and that baffles me why you can be mad about it'll. Look at how you come at people.

Guy enjoying Diablo: "guys! I'm having so much fun playing free!'

You: "wow you think you can be good vs the guy that spent $50,000! Hah you idiot go die you're so stupid"

Guy enjoying Diablo: "dude...all I said was I'm having fun. I didnt say I'm competing with other people"

You: "hah you're such an idiot you love trash games because you cant win vs everyone. Blah blah."

See what you're doing? You're just a bully. Whoever hurt you, I'm sorry. Quit being an asshole and go somewhere else.

Enjoy my book long post.


you said this, it is not true, I explained how it is not true in the context of d2/d2r

I asked you to define 'p2w' so instead of a retarded argument we can figure out exactly what we both mean so we can come to an understanding, but you refused to answer it



the shit you say contradicts yourself it makes no sense and your argument is legitimately incoherent

please just state what you mean when you say 'p2w'

I've already explained exactly how d2/d2r is not pay to win.

This post was edited by SlamFkingDunk on Aug 6 2022 12:26am
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Aug 6 2022 12:34am
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you said this, it is not true, I explained how it is not true in the context of d2/d2r

I asked you to define 'p2w' so instead of a retarded argument we can figure out exactly what we both mean so we can come to an understanding, but you refused to answer it


We have explained it 1000 times

Let me break it down very simple for you:

Forum gold. Holds a USD value. CAN and IS sold even on large platforms like Ebay for REAL USD.

Buy gear with FG. You could have SOLD that fg because it holds USD value. You traded for gear.

You just PAID for gear with fg, OR you could have purchased it from a website. $4.99. Websites exist that sell gear. D2R? Has a MASSIVE market on Ebay, right now. You can literally buy a shako for $6.00 on Eba
Fg = USD. Get it yet?

Unless you claim you are playing a character 100% mf self found, the moment you pay for gear with FG or USD, BOTH paying! You now have an advantage over a true non payer.
Whether 40fg vs 2000fg build or not, the 2000fg stands a 500x better chance and as you stated yourself, a 90% chance of winning. The 2000fg is PAY TO WIN compared to the 40fg, exactly the same as a "whale" that spends $500 vs a guy who spent $40.
It is EXACTLY THE SAME.

Dont tell me "I didn't read it all". Read it. Because this is exactly why I'm explaining it to you for the 100th time. You are a liar if you say you arent reading. Ignorance doesnt excuse you. Claiming you didnt read it doesnt make it not true.

40fg vs 2000fg. If the 40fg can beat a 2000fg build the SAME rule applies to $40 vs $2000 because it DOES happen! I can beat people WAY over my CR on DI because of my SKILL.

This post was edited by Soul Snatcha on Aug 6 2022 12:36am
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Aug 6 2022 12:38am
Quote (Soul Snatcha @ Aug 5 2022 11:34pm)
We have explained it 1000 times

Let me break it down very simple for you:

Forum gold. Holds a USD value. CAN and IS sold even on large platforms like Ebay for REAL USD.

Buy gear with FG. You could have SOLD that fg because it holds USD value. You traded for gear.

You just PAID for gear with fg, OR you could have purchased it from a website. $4.99. Websites exist that sell gear. D2R? Has a MASSIVE market on Ebay, right now. You can literally buy a shako for $6.00 on Eba
Fg = USD. Get it yet?

Unless you claim you are playing a character 100% mf self found, the moment you pay for gear with FG or USD, BOTH paying! You now have an advantage over a true non payer.
Whether 40fg vs 2000fg build or not, the 2000fg stands a 500x better chance and as you stated yourself, a 90% chance of winning. The 2000fg is PAY TO WIN compared to the 40fg, exactly the same as a "whale" that spends $500 vs a guy who spent $40.
It is EXACTLY THE SAME.

Dont tell me "I didn't read it all". Read it. Because this is exactly why I'm explaining it to you for the 100th time. You are a liar if you say you arent reading. Ignorance doesnt excuse you. Claiming you didnt read it doesnt make it not true.

40fg vs 2000fg. If the 40fg can beat a 2000fg build the SAME rule applies to $40 vs $2000 because it DOES happen! I can beat people WAY over my CR on DI because of my SKILL.

THIS IS


I'm skeptical

maybe right now you've spammed so much of the game that the difference between free to play 40$ gamer and 2000$ gamer isn't that large

but you aren't beating whales 1v1, ZERO chance. I do not believe it.. need evidence for that one.


I'm not just saying that it DOES happen, I'm talking about 90%+ of the time

not you just get lucky and kite out a shitty whale player and outplay him, because you definitely are not doing it consistently if you are vs a whale who 1 shots you


also I don't even think that game has 1v1s its only battlegrounds, please show me these battlegrounds that you are carrying with shit load of kills (meeeeeeeeeeep keeps spamming threads showing his godly 5k damage)

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Aug 6 2022 12:40am
call it what u wunna call it. it is what it is. (pay to win) argue all you like lol
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I'm skeptical

maybe right now you've spammed so much of the game that the difference between free to play 40$ gamer and 2000$ gamer isn't that large

but you aren't beating whales 1v1, ZERO chance. I do not believe it.. need evidence for that one.


$2000 isnt even hardly a whale now. There are people with 5k resonance that have spent $15k +. I seen guys with $1000+ in gems on a paragon 90 with like 1700 cr. I'm $40 in, 2600 cr paragon 134. Explain that one.

Yet, my 2600cr is beating 3100+ 1v1. If there was a way to video it on my phone, TRUST me. It would be posted on here a long time ago and the sad truth is, you 2 would STILL find a way to discredit it. Trust me. The day I can video record it, will be the day it will be blasted on here. I promise you wont miss it and like I said, you guys will STILL find something stupid to say.

This post was edited by Soul Snatcha on Aug 6 2022 12:46am
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Aug 6 2022 12:49am
Quote (Soul Snatcha @ Aug 5 2022 11:45pm)
$2000 isnt even hardly a whale now. There are people with 5k resonance that have spent $15k +. I seen guys with $1000+ in gems on a paragon 90 with like 1700 cr. I'm $40 in, 2600 cr paragon 134. Explain that one.

Yet, my 2600cr is beating 3100+ 1v1. If there was a way to video it on my phone, TRUST me. It would be posted on here a long time ago and the sad truth is, you 2 would STILL find a way to discredit it. Trust me. The day I can video record it, will be the day it will be blasted on here. I promise you wont miss it and like I said, you guys will STILL find something stupid to say.


never said 2000$ is a whale, it isn't.

you spammed the fuck out of the game and got lucky with drops/rolling gems or whatever else and this is somehow convinced you that you can compete with whales LOL

you are out of depth here

the difference between 2600CR and 3100CR is probably not the typical difference people would see between a 40$ Diablo immortal gamer and a 2k$+ one lets say, let alone an actual whale


you make no sense, you keep admitting the game is pay to win but your argument is that because you agree diablo immortal is pay to win that somehow d2/d2r is.. which is just incorrect

This post was edited by SlamFkingDunk on Aug 6 2022 12:52am
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Aug 6 2022 12:51am
:rofl:

I love seeing someone with 212k try to defend d2 not being p2w

Fucking GOLDEN thread.
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:rofl:

I love seeing someone with 212k try to defend d2 not being p2w

Fucking GOLDEN thread.


you literally refuse to even respond or reply to how I explained why d2/d2r is not pay to win... yes, golden thread indeed



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Quote (SlamFkingDunk @ Aug 6 2022 01:52am)
you literally refuse to even respond or reply to how I explained why d2/d2r is not pay to win... yes

golden thread indeed


sit down already, you've been put in your place more times than i can count.

Keep trolling this forums because you have nothing better to do :rofl:
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Aug 6 2022 12:55am
Quote (Meeeeep @ Aug 5 2022 11:53pm)
sit down already, you've been put in your place more times than i can count.

Keep trolling this forums because you have nothing better to do :rofl:


right... so once again.. dodge the explanation, completely avoid it

good one!!!


you literally have a thread updating everyone daily on your diablo immortal journey that no one gives a fuck about mr zero kills LOL

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=95205299&f=153

^ HAHHAHAHA

you are right about one thing, this is a huge waste of time, doesn't matter what I say you two bozos gonna shill for this horrific game.. have fun :D

This post was edited by SlamFkingDunk on Aug 6 2022 12:56am
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