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Without enigma your iron golem will be dying quite often.

I prefer to put insight and life leech on merc and not have to think about casting life tap, drinking mana, corpses shattering and iron golem dying. Also, clay golem plus decrep bugs bosses.

Sure, this playstyle may be a little bit slower, but that’s what I prefer.

I rarely play summoner on higher players count. Corppse explosion doesn’t scale well. And no matter what the merc setup, it’s the CE that deals ~95% of your total damage anyways.

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Without enigma your iron golem will be dying quite often.

I prefer to put insight and life leech on merc and not have to think about casting life tap, drinking mana, corpses shattering and iron golem dying. Also, clay golem plus decrep bugs bosses.

Sure, this playstyle may be a little bit slower, but that’s what I prefer.

I rarely play summoner on higher players count. Corppse explosion doesn’t scale well. And no matter what the merc setup, it’s the CE that deals ~95% of your total damage anyways.


Taking care of the insight iron golem isn't a problem. Dim vision and decrepify are your best friends. Diablo and Baal die faster to 75cb and decrepify than insight merc + decrepify+ clay golem. I tested the setup in 2.3 and it was already stronger back then.
Mancatcher just makes them die even faster. Enchant CTC also helps.

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Taking care of the insight iron golem isn't a problem. Dim vision and decrepify are your best friends. Diablo and Baal die faster to 75cb and decrepify than insight merc + decrepify+ clay golem. I tested the setup in 2.3 and it was already stronger back then.
Mancatcher just makes them die even faster. Enchant CTC also helps.


Ah, so now not only you need to cast life tap to help your merc but also dim vision and decrep to rescue your golem…

I mean, you can do this. It’s just that you have more and more balls to juggle. It’s not worth the additional effort if you ask me.
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Jun 25 2022 04:46am
Casting life tap for ur merc is dumb just feed him a full juv no reason you shouldn’t have like 50 of them in your personal stash. As for dim vision who the hell casts that ur minions are swarming stuff before that matters and or ur casting corpse explode. Decrepify is good on bosses even without a clay golem as well.
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Quote (ferret8569 @ Jun 25 2022 12:46pm)
Casting life tap for ur merc is dumb just feed him a full juv no reason you shouldn’t have like 50 of them in your personal stash. As for dim vision who the hell casts that ur minions are swarming stuff before that matters and or ur casting corpse explode. Decrepify is good on bosses even without a clay golem as well.


Dim Vision:
Amp Archers with fana in pits
Decrepify:
Anything extra fast/extra strong, end bosses
Life Tap:
My sentiment actually, I don't even give him a rejuv but a super life potion. But in case of an imminent danger of dying, life tap instantly saves him.

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Ah, so now not only you need to cast life tap to help your merc but also dim vision and decrep to rescue your golem…

I mean, you can do this. It’s just that you have more and more balls to juggle. It’s not worth the additional effort if you ask me.


Nope, you're the one making it complicated. Try the build with hero editor. You'll know what we mean.
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Nope, you're the one making it complicated. Try the build with hero editor. You'll know what we mean.


Nah, I’ve played budget summon necros all my life and I know what I am talking about.

If you want a low maintenance build you go with insight & life leech on your merc. Tele amu & wealth on yourself. You cast amp & CE for regular mobs and decrep & clay golem for bosses.

If you want to min/max and be as efficient as possible and need to think about merc & iron golem surviving and want to pot mana, health and rejuvs for yourself and for the merc and think about which curse to cast where you go with what you suggested.

Matter of preference, really.
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Nah, I’ve played budget summon necros all my life and I know what I am talking about.

If you want a low maintenance build you go with insight & life leech on your merc. Tele amu & wealth on yourself. You cast amp & CE for regular mobs and decrep & clay golem for bosses.

If you want to min/max and be as efficient as possible and need to think about merc & iron golem surviving and want to pot mana, health and rejuvs for yourself and for the merc and think about which curse to cast where you go with what you suggested.

Matter of preference, really.


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