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May 24 2022 12:25pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 24 2022 01:13pm)
He gasped "I can't breathe" about a hundred times before he stopped talking, most of them before anyone restrained him. He was saying it while in the vehicle. Again, the theory you're arguing is one in spite of evidence, an unfalsifiable claim. If the argument goes that "there isn't always going to be evidence", well then how can you prosecute someone for murder? A proof beyond a reasonable doubt, in a crime on a theory that cannot be proven because it cannot be disproven. There could have been clear evidence of the amount of force used that would have been compelling. If there was bruising, trauma, physical injury of any kind. Then we could point to that and say, Chauvin & Co used enough force to cause these marks. Instead, we're left to this goldilocks scenario where they used exactly the right amount of force- held consistently for 9+ minutes- where any more and they'd leave marks, any less and it wouldn't cause harm. The absence of such evidence can't disprove that scenario, but it does weight against it and make it unlikely.

If Nancy Pelosi were found dead in the oval office in 2019 and a bloodstained knife had Donald Trump's fingerprints on it and his shoeprints were in the pooled blood, and lets throw in a used condom for good measure, well, we could construct a 'possible' scenario where an ingenious Puerto Rican-looking assassin framed Trump by obtaining his fingerprints from a diet coke, planting them on the knife, stealing his shoes to wear, sprinkling his DNA at the scene obtained from a hooker who works a corner behind a DC McDonalds and picking up his phone to tweet about it. And the assassin carefully removed every possible shred of evidence he was ever there. But there would be no evidence to support that theory, and all the evidence we have weighs against it and says the obvious conclusion about whodunnit.


We're back to my analogy about grandma and a pillow. If grandma is dying in hospice of cancer, and you smother her with a pillow to end her suffering, you have killed her. Not the cancer. You.

We know for a fact that he died, we know for a fact that he felt he couldn't breathe, and we know for a fact that the cops made it hard for him to breathe. There's nothing to consider regarding falsifiability.
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May 24 2022 12:33pm
Quote (Santara @ May 24 2022 01:25pm)
We're back to my analogy about grandma and a pillow. If grandma is dying in hospice of cancer, and you smother her with a pillow to end her suffering, you have killed her. Not the cancer. You.

We know for a fact that he died, we know for a fact that he felt he couldn't breathe, and we know for a fact that the cops made it hard for him to breathe. There's nothing to consider regarding falsifiability.


People lie, especially criminal thugs.
It is unreasonable to ask a cop to endanger themselves or others in an arrest/detainment.
Don't like it?
Don't be a criminal POS and put yourself in that situation. ;)
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May 24 2022 12:34pm
Quote (sirthom @ May 24 2022 01:33pm)
People lie, especially criminal thugs.
It is unreasonable to ask a cop to endanger themselves or others in an arrest/detainment.
Don't like it?
Don't be a criminal POS and put yourself in that situation. ;)


Is it fucking unreasonable to roll him onto his side so he can fucking breathe? Because that's what they're supposed to do.
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May 24 2022 12:38pm
Quote (Santara @ May 24 2022 01:34pm)
Is it fucking unreasonable to roll him onto his side so he can fucking breathe? Because that's what they're supposed to do.


Asking the wrong person.
He should have been lynched when he pointed a guy at a pregnant woman's belly.
Deff can't breathe then.
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May 24 2022 12:39pm
Quote (sirthom @ May 24 2022 01:38pm)
Asking the wrong person.
He should have been lynched when he pointed a guy at a pregnant woman's belly.
Deff can't breathe then.


I'm asking the wrong person because you're a fucking racist piece of shit who'd just assume let all the niggers die.

This post was edited by Santara on May 24 2022 12:39pm
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May 24 2022 12:41pm
Shots fired.
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May 24 2022 12:44pm
Quote (Santara @ May 24 2022 01:25pm)
We're back to my analogy about grandma and a pillow. If grandma is dying in hospice of cancer, and you smother her with a pillow to end her suffering, you have killed her. Not the cancer. You.

We know for a fact that he died, we know for a fact that he felt he couldn't breathe, and we know for a fact that the cops made it hard for him to breathe. There's nothing to consider regarding falsifiability.


100%, and i stated the same around the time it happened. if a soldier shoots a dying man rather than try and give aid he's punished as if he killed him.

tox reports and how much he could or couldn't talk isn't of concern. the very own MPD handbook has specific training slides prohibiting the actions Chauvin did in the exact context he did them.
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May 24 2022 12:45pm
Racist piece of shit about to go free as Santara gets 10%
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May 24 2022 12:46pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ May 24 2022 01:45pm)
Racist piece of shit about to go free as Santara gets 10%


That's because #TFSLM
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May 24 2022 12:48pm
Quote (thesnipa @ May 24 2022 02:44pm)
100%, and i stated the same around the time it happened. if a soldier shoots a dying man rather than try and give aid he's punished as if he killed him.

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However, if he stabs him, he's a hero. ;)
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