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itams
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May 26 2022 04:34am
Quote (gel87 @ May 26 2022 11:51am)
Yes.

Buffed bowa damage
Buffed plague damage

Op as F***

If u want maximum fun playstyle you can make a 3hybrid.
The skill u penalty is fury light dmg. The light damage scale low on that one anyway for pvp, but physical damage is nice, also physical damage is way better vs summons with their 85res, same with mercs if enemy bm.

If ur able to find javs with simular damage as eth titans, somehting like this:
2ama
2java
30+ ias
300++ed
(they dont have to be ETH, repl)

Then you can build this(resists are the issue, search for resists stats) :
Diadem: 2ama, 20fcr, 30frw, 2soc (ideally @ res as well) - Socet: (if you need more res u soc 15ias/15@ if u dont u soc 15ias/40ed)
Ammu: 2ama, 20fcr, 15+@, STR or DEX or Life ammu
Ring: 10fcr, (2 stats, str/dex/life), @, ideally some mana or single res as well)
Ring 2: Raven
Belt: Arach
Boots: Wt's
Armor: Enigma
Gloves: 2java/20ias/kb/2 adds(see what u need more between str/dex/single res, they can spawn with 2 of any combi) IF they are dual res, and u have a high dual res ring u can hit the quadfecta increasing more of all 4 res rapidly.
Javs: 2ama, 2java, 30+ ias, 300+ed
Shield: Stormshield '15ias/15@'
Bow: Faith MB 2/3/15aura

Inventory:
Torch 20@/xx stats
Annie 20@/xx stats
8 java sks life
9 x life/5@
cube: cta 6/6 + mara + bk + soj + demon limb

Ur res from anya and charms = 30 + 20 + 20 + 45 = 115.
So you need: 60 @ from gear. Stormshield and faith = 15@ if storm socet correct.
You then miss: 45@

Since we dont have sop and bug belt anymore, its harder to abs light while having 68fcr and mantaining cnbf.
So here we use valkyire as meatshield instead of wisp.
And we also keep this eq vs light:
20fcr/3soc 2 x ias/ed or @ jools + cham - Wisp

Vs blizz:
I never stacked blizz on d2lod on my ama, i relyed on KB and dodges and raw damage from CS.
You have big stash size now, so u can see if u can come up with something:
Stack boots
20fcr/90cr/45ias helm
stormshield socet 30cold/15ias
Cold stack ammulet simular to ur main
Cold scs
But fact is that you should just rely on luck vs them, i rarely did 1v1's, so i just built chars to duel all at once, and rather have 1 nemesis, but infact my 3hybrid did not struggle much vs blizz anyway. But maby harder now when kb is less effective...

U can skill such a build either as bow + plauge, or as bow + cs + plauge.(bolt, cs, fury, plague, multi and GA)


Cool build. How would your skill tree look like?
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May 26 2022 05:01am
Quote (itams @ May 26 2022 12:34pm)
Cool build. How would your skill tree look like?


Im not sure atm, cause i havent played much d2r and dont have all the changes in my head.

I would skills plague and psn javs until 45-50k dmg.
1 all dodges, critic, pierce, penetrate, valkyrie.
1 ga, multi, and possible strafe now.
1 fury
20cs
20lightning bolt
20power strike
Remaining into cs/bolt syntenergies.

Something like that, if any1 have a d2r skill calc with newest patch, or the formulas i can give you a really balanced build :)

Dont know if this is correct?
https://www.wowhead.com/diablo-2/skill-calc/amazon/234687abcfjegkmdhnrpswx7X8Q4R6Xa3R4a38E/26

Could not put java specific skills, so bow skills are to high, the same are dodge skills... Dno from which patch this is either..

This post was edited by gel87 on May 26 2022 05:12am
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May 26 2022 05:57am
Here is one, felt more correct:
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/3i0106yv

U can swap cs down to 7.0 k and get pretty massive dmg bonus on plague jav.
If your res are maxed without some scs u can add 3/20/20 scs...

This is ofc perfect items with exception of jav which can be way better.
Diadem and ring is unluckly to find something close, so u might have to get urself 15ias/15@ in diadem to get resists...

This one landed at:
7,4k cs
47k plague
800-2k ga (critic is not involded in damage here)
5,2k bolt dmg

it has:
43% dr shield side.
75@ + some stacks both sides
max ias both sides
68fcr
100 frw
cnbf

I have seen many builds wiht like -24 all resists... We all know that aint gonna cut it...

Now i dropped life down to 4k with bo.
And added all via dex.
https://d2.maxroll.gg/d2planner/ot0106nh

Fury:
800-3k physical dmg on fury. + 1,5k light.

GA:
1034 - 2187

Ur call^^

This post was edited by gel87 on May 26 2022 06:00am
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May 26 2022 09:13am
So the damach vs osama comparison comes down to high CS with low bow, versus zero CS with high bow. Otherwise they're pretty identical. The osama only uses 40 skill points to pump bow damage, it can dump another 20 across passives, it can get 1 point valk / 1 point impale without any sacrifices to primary damage. Having +361% ed guided / +228% ed multi / +285% ed strafe, by comparison. Its also more reason to go a highlords build and lose a fcr frame to go higher on damage.

One thing that strikes me with either build is going with a 15% ias jewel in stormshield instead of 50% dr ber storm setup. It will nudge you over a higher ias frame for throw, but not CS, when using an eth titans setup if you've got 30% ias in helm and 20% gloves. But against physical damage, you're taking 14% more overall damage / losing 12.3% of your EHP. That's a pretty big cost. Zons have the flexibility, especially with the shared stash, to swap in a different shield in non-block/dr matchups. If you're against a caster you could put on a shield with 3x light facet + 1x 15/15 jewel. Of course, building around highlords gets there easier. And rare javelins really depend on what you have access to since you could be dealing with different breakpoints
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May 26 2022 09:43am
hows java/plague zon vs druid wind/raven
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May 26 2022 09:45am
Im gonna post a new SVA build later this evening m8.. try take a look and see if you wanna go the non meta Way on a char maybe ✌️🙂 gl with pvp its fun

This post was edited by noted_RIP on May 26 2022 09:45am
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May 26 2022 09:34pm
Quote (DHA @ May 21 2022 05:17pm)


So glad you posted this. Hopefully we get more people over there to comment on the thread
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May 26 2022 11:48pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 26 2022 05:13pm)
So the damach vs osama comparison comes down to high CS with low bow, versus zero CS with high bow. Otherwise they're pretty identical. The osama only uses 40 skill points to pump bow damage, it can dump another 20 across passives, it can get 1 point valk / 1 point impale without any sacrifices to primary damage. Having +361% ed guided / +228% ed multi / +285% ed strafe, by comparison. Its also more reason to go a highlords build and lose a fcr frame to go higher on damage.

One thing that strikes me with either build is going with a 15% ias jewel in stormshield instead of 50% dr ber storm setup. It will nudge you over a higher ias frame for throw, but not CS, when using an eth titans setup if you've got 30% ias in helm and 20% gloves. But against physical damage, you're taking 14% more overall damage / losing 12.3% of your EHP. That's a pretty big cost. Zons have the flexibility, especially with the shared stash, to swap in a different shield in non-block/dr matchups. If you're against a caster you could put on a shield with 3x light facet + 1x 15/15 jewel. Of course, building around highlords gets there easier. And rare javelins really depend on what you have access to since you could be dealing with different breakpoints


Yes, there is no doubt an osama build harvest more from the new buff's in form of damage :)
I just prefer the gameplay of 3hybrid/damach zon :)
U have more options in form of tactics for an 3hybrid/damach zon, but osama builds are damn strong, but cannot cs hunt or punish with that cs. Their bolt dmg is slightly lower as well.

On suchs zons i take the damage over the 7% more dr. It might be less relevant now, as i understand it such that enemies cannot be chain kb'ed anymore. Vs ele druids and general "summoners" or bm merc players that ias helps a lot.
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May 27 2022 12:12am
Quote (Zet_4 @ May 27 2022 05:34am)
So glad you posted this. Hopefully we get more people over there to comment on the thread


Thanks mate for support
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