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Jan 24 2022 11:39am
Quote (AvanineCommuter @ Jan 24 2022 12:31pm)
Got a dmg calculator? I’m curious to see how they compare in raw numbers.


with same gear but swaping between eschuta 3/25 + spirit vs obsession in 3mastery/3any skill we have an average of 2.6% more dmg with obsession (I compared nova/light/fb and even reduced that % down by adding blizz who had a lilttle better stats with Dphantom to be fair)
denfensively we have aprox 6% better stats without the curse, or just massively not comparable better stats with the curse active
all that for loosing 10fcr (with 105fcr builds not way stronger cuz of the no cast delay between each spells)

I can't wait to see the old school meta addicts bite the dust vs those who are willing to adapt ;)
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Jan 24 2022 11:40am
Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Jan 24 2022 11:39am)
with same gear but swaping between eschuta 3/25 + spirit vs obsession in 3mastery/3any skill we have an average of 2.6% more dmg with obsession (I compared nova/light/fb and even reduced that % down by adding blizz who had a lilttle better stats with Dphantom to be fair)
denfensively we have aprox 6% better stats without the curse, or just massively not comparable better stats with the curse active
all that for loosing 10fcr (with 105fcr builds not way stronger cuz of the no cast delay between each spells)

I can't wait to see the old school meta addicts bite the dust vs those who are willing to adapt ;)



This isn’t the first time you have tried to do math and come out to the wrong conclusion
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Jan 24 2022 11:41am
Quote (Overpriced @ Jan 24 2022 12:40pm)
This isn’t the first time you have tried to do math and come out to the wrong conclusion


show me your maths
please show me your maths :D

and I mean, compare apples with apples, dont do like you normally do and swap things around and play with numbers where you HAVE to put the test to the worst case scenario

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Jan 24 2022 11:42am
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Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Jan 24 2022 06:39pm)
with same gear but swaping between eschuta 3/25 + spirit vs obsession in 3mastery/3any skill we have an average of 2.6% more dmg with obsession (I compared nova/light/fb and even reduced that % down by adding blizz who had a lilttle better stats with Dphantom to be fair)
denfensively we have aprox 6% better stats without the curse, or just massively not comparable better stats with the curse active
all that for loosing 10fcr (with 105fcr builds not way stronger cuz of the no cast delay between each spells)

I can't wait to see the old school meta addicts bite the dust vs those who are willing to adapt ;)


and i can't wait your topics

"Need 3/3 base staff"

"3k fg's"

2 months later :
"ok i finally found a 3 nova/1 lightning mastery base staff cool !"
"the fck, why i have no mana"
"the fck, why my friend with infinity sorc is way stronger, i don't understand, i have 200fcr, he only have 105"
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Jan 24 2022 11:42am
Quote (Overpriced @ Jan 24 2022 12:34pm)
I do




It’s not just raw numbers. But it’s also the -5% lite damage.

It’s also the fact you have more mana. Allowing you to cast more nova

Jesus this isn’t hard guys.



Eschuta / spirit is 5 to nova, 5 lightning mastery, 25% dmg and -5% res.

Obsession is 7 to nova, 7 to lightning mastery.

With 12% lightning dmg each mastery level, you end up with 85% vs. 84%. Then the only difference will be -5% enemy res compared to two full levels of nova.
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Jan 24 2022 11:45am
Quote (ajnag @ Jan 24 2022 12:42pm)
and i can't wait your topics

"Need 3/3 base staff"

"3k fg's"

2 months later :
"ok i finally found a 3 nova/1 lightning mastery base staff cool !"
"the fck, why i have no mana"
"the fck, why my friend with infinity sorc is way stronger, i don't understand, i have 200fcr, he only have 105"


again, why do you assume I wont have infinity XD
wtf is wrong with you ppl
''oh hes gonna use obsession and play naked with his staff'' XD
and like I said, 105fcr is probably gonna be stronger than 200 in most cases, dunno why you quote me like if I said otherwise duh

BTW I already found a 3lightM/3nova staff the day the patch got out. PPl didnt pick up staff, now its worth looking at them.
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Jan 24 2022 11:47am
Quote (AvanineCommuter @ Jan 24 2022 12:42pm)
Eschuta / spirit is 5 to nova, 5 lightning mastery, 25% dmg and -5% res.

Obsession is 7 to nova, 7 to lightning mastery.

With 12% lightning dmg each mastery level, you end up with 85% vs. 84%. Then the only difference will be -5% enemy res compared to two full levels of nova.


you forgot the 2 extra nova skills there buddy ;)
not only 1% extra light dmg, its boosted mostly by the raw +nova (or whatever skill)
and in most cases, using infinity + giff + 3nova ormus with facet means 90% of monster are down to -100res already, so there is rarely a -5% diff (or the diminishing return for -res is quite low when looking at negative res if the monster had more light res to start with)
and in pvp there is also no -5% diff unless you pvp a noob

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Jan 24 2022 11:49am
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Jan 24 2022 11:48am
Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Jan 24 2022 12:47pm)
you forgot the 2 extra nova skills there buddy ;)
not only 1% extra light dmg, its boosted mostly by the raw +nova (or whatever skill)



Read again buddy ;)
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Jan 24 2022 11:48am
Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Jan 24 2022 06:45pm)
again, why do you assume I wont have infinity XD
wtf is wrong with you ppl
''oh hes gonna use obsession and play naked with his staff'' XD
and like I said, 105fcr is probably gonna be stronger than 200 in most cases, dunno why you quote me like if I said otherwise duh

BTW I already found a 3lightM/3nova staff the day the patch got out. PPl didnt pick up staff, now its worth looking at them.


and where do you get mana if you play obsession and infinity on merc ? :bonk:

Spam mana pots? litterally SPAM your mana pots every monsters'pack ?

And no, definitly NOT, conviction + -55%light res >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +7nova/LM 200fcr with 0 mana regen
Nova scale bad with +skills
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Jan 24 2022 11:51am
Quote (ajnag @ Jan 24 2022 12:48pm)
and where do you get mana if you play obsession and infinity on merc ? :bonk:

Spam mana pots? litterally SPAM your mana pots every monsters'pack ?

And no, definitly NOT, conviction + -55%light res >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +7nova/LM 200fcr with 0 mana regen
Nova scale bad with +skills


nova USED to scale bad before getting a buff for 2x more base dmg applied before all +%dmg form mastery and facets

infinity gives absolutely no defensive stats, and nova is nearly a melee spell
so the only thing I can say is...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA funny joking guy, I love you
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