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IgoSoHard
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Jan 24 2022 09:58am
Obsession

4 skills
65 Fcr
60 Fhr
70 All Res
25% Max Life
10 vitality
10 energy
30% mana regen

Hoto+spirit:

6 Skills
75 Fcr
55 fhr
75 All Res/40 Fire
20 Life Rep
15% Max Mana
22 vitality
10 Dex
AlakhaiDeMythos
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Jan 24 2022 09:59am
I love it because it gives another option regarding gear.

Not completely op and not worthless at all.

Good adition to the game.
SinsOfTheSun
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Jan 24 2022 10:02am
Quote (Overpriced @ Jan 24 2022 10:57am)
It has 10% more FCR. Thus being able to use 1x more soj or bk. So the true skill delta is only 1

Eschutas has 25% damage and -5% enemy resist on it. The 25% damage alone more than makes up for the 1 skill loss.

-5% resist, against an enemy with 50% resist, increases your total damage output by 10%. As can be shown here:
You do 10k damage. They have 50% resist. You do 5000 damage
You do 10k damage. They have 45% resist. You do 5500 damage


5500 is 10% more than 5000%



Eschutas + spirit is better.



You always only compare a precise scenario to find an advantage in a precise situation then switch to compare something else. Lets keep the scenario you exposed first : pvp.
-5% res in pvp means nothing, no real pvp player will have his maxed res dropped by an extra 5% from any possible sorc build.
Using a 105% build this wins hard. And 105% is going to be thd new meta for tons of build now that you can alternate between all spells with a delay.
Apples with apples, you know? Now please stop putting shame on yourself, I thought you were funny now Im starting to express pity for you, this is sad
SinsOfTheSun
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Jan 24 2022 10:05am
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Jan 24 2022 10:58am)
Obsession

4 skills
65 Fcr
60 Fhr
70 All Res
25% Max Life
10 vitality
10 energy
30% mana regen

Hoto+spirit:

6 Skills
75 Fcr
55 fhr
75 All Res/40 Fire
20 Life Rep
15% Max Mana
22 vitality
10 Dex



You forgot that obsession gives an extra +3 to mastery and the skill you use, you don’t make it in a plain staff lol
Also 42%dr
And good amount of mf/gf

65fcr
+20 arach
Then +20 from gloves/circ/amy/rings for 105 opens to so many possibilities. Remember that all delayed spells can now be alternately cast between each other, so playing at 105fcr could still result in close to 2x the casting speed of the old 200fcr

This post was edited by SinsOfTheSun on Jan 24 2022 10:08am
Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins
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Jan 24 2022 10:06am
Quote (SinsOfTheSun @ Jan 24 2022 10:02am)
You always only compare a precise scenario to find an advantage in a precise situation then switch to compare something else. Lets keep the scenario you exposed first : pvp.
-5% res in pvp means nothing, no real pvp player will have his maxed res dropped by an extra 5% from any possible sorc build.
Using a 105% build this wins hard. And 105% is going to be thd new meta for tons of build now that you can alternate between all spells with a delay.
Apples with apples, you know? Now please stop putting shame on yourself, I thought you were funny now Im starting to express pity for you, this is sad



For pvp, the sorb from spirit, the mana from spirit and the extra 10% FCR from Eschutas spirit for vita is significantly better than what the staff offers. Even without the - resist element in pvp, Eschutas will still do more damage because of the 20% damage as you will 7fhr jewel the wand in pvp with something like 7fhr/res/rep/etc

Hoto + spirit is still significantly better for ES.
Neekz
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Jan 24 2022 10:10am
Quote (Overpriced @ Jan 24 2022 11:06am)
For pvp, the sorb from spirit, the mana from spirit and the extra 10% FCR from Eschutas spirit for vita is significantly better than what the staff offers. Even without the - resist element in pvp, Eschutas will still do more damage because of the 20% damage as you will 7fhr jewel the wand in pvp with something like 7fhr/res/rep/etc

Hoto + spirit is still significantly better for ES.


so use hoto spirit then, ill use the swag staff
AnthroWolphie
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Jan 24 2022 10:13am
Quote (Overpriced @ Jan 24 2022 10:57am)
It has 10% more FCR. Thus being able to use 1x more soj or bk. So the true skill delta is only 1

Eschutas has 25% damage and -5% enemy resist on it. The 25% damage alone more than makes up for the 1 skill loss.

-5% resist, against an enemy with 50% resist, increases your total damage output by 10%. As can be shown here:
You do 10k damage. They have 50% resist. You do 5000 damage
You do 10k damage. They have 45% resist. You do 5500 damage


5500 is 10% more than 5000%



Eschutas + spirit is better.


Obsession magefists arach = 105... No need for cast ring...
Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins
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Jan 24 2022 10:14am
Quote (AnthroWolphie @ Jan 24 2022 10:13am)
Obsession magefists arach = 105... No need for cast ring...



String of ears is one of the biggest defensive items pieces in the game for pvm. Gasp.

And since you aren’t using spirit, you will need it. Gasp.


Not to mention that lightning BP is at 117fcr, not 105

Gasp

This post was edited by Overpriced on Jan 24 2022 10:15am
Bugeater
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Jan 24 2022 10:15am
Don't use eschuta unless your a 200 svs sorc and want the socket for a fhr jewel, any comparison to eschuta is a waste of time

Hoto/spirit for es
Cmoon for pvm lite
Fathom for cold

But, if your a pvp 105vita fire or 117 vita lite sorc... your build isn't great but Obsession with a nutty base is probably the play

Unless you can find a nice magic orb, that is, then that's still better
VickIsSick07
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Jan 24 2022 10:16am
Quote (Overpriced @ Jan 24 2022 11:14am)
String of ears is one of the biggest defensive items pieces in the game for pvm. Gasp.

And since you aren’t using spirit, you will need it. Gasp.


Gotta make up for the missing Dr you lose from not having spirit. Makes sense.
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