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Jan 23 2022 06:47pm
Quote (Skinned @ Jan 23 2022 05:57pm)
This is definitely an annexation of Austria moment.


Germany's population in 1939 exceeded that of both France and the United Kingdom. Russia's population today is dwarfed by both the United States, as well as any reasonable combination of European states. They aren't comparable situations. Russia cannot overrun Europe, and the invasion of Ukraine would represent a serious breach of international norms, but not a world ending threat.
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Jan 23 2022 07:01pm
Quote (Skinned @ 23 Jan 2022 17:57)
This is definitely an annexation of Austria moment.

did you say the same in 2014?
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Jan 24 2022 03:06am
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did you say the same in 2014?


Quote (Skinned @ Jan 23 2022 04:57pm)
This is definitely an annexation of Austria moment.


I can't imagine there are any greater territorial aspirations by a power who has completely free rein to seize any or all of ukraine but doesn't actually want it all, just going to take the juiciest cuts.
There's a vibe in the sense of Putin's interest in annexing the ethnic russian territories, but poland isn't in his sights.

Maybe I'm wrong and he'll use his twilight years to carve out an empire. Biden is probably the first modern president weak enough to let him
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Jan 24 2022 03:36am
Regardless of what actually happens in reality, the American public will not be in the loop. Media, as usual, will run cover for Biden, whether he throws a congratulatory parade for Putin for successfully conquering Ukraine, or drops ICBMs on every Russian population center over 2. Any "invasion" will not be as sexy as Hollywood or video games would convey. I don't have a dog in this fight, but Putin knows that the American Empire's priority is protecting Biden, not peace in Ukraine. If Biden can get away with doing nothing meaningful, he'll do nothing meaningful. There will be all sorts of pointless debates about it here and on network TV that will amount to jack squat.

In that sense, Ukrainian civilians in the hot zones should count their blessings that our media complex is so corrupt. If the majority of our dinner table conversations were dictated by something like Trump News, the American public would be watching Putin like a hawk, knowing they'll get accurate insight into the situation, and the Russian position would be largely conciliatory and less blustery.
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Jan 24 2022 03:45am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jan 23 2022 11:07pm)
Seriously? Who is dumb enough to believe this tripe these days?

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/anonymous-officials-claim-theres-evil-russian-plot-again-evidence-secret-again

"anonymous officials", "secret evidence",

gee, where have I heard that before?

Fact is, Russia ain't invading squat and this is just another case of the paranoid genocidal homicidal fascists in DC drumming up yet another unnecessary war while pretending that it is their victims which are the unholy, evil aggressors.

It didn't take a rocket scientist to see in 2014 that the US was behind the coup that led to the civil war in Ukraine and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that now, 8 years later, these same people are using the crisis they themselves created in the first place as a casus belli to move the world closer towards war with Russia.

Will these genocidal morons ever give up, or would they rather see the whole planet go up in nuclear flames just to satisfy their fantasies of world domination?



nothing new, but its new that americans start complain about their international „democratic“ strategy. bit late, but yeah better late then never.

what you gonna do now? decrease your massive use of oil and ressources you americans dont own? or go on invading oilrich countrys and destabilize whole nations, to stay „number 1 motherfucker“ on earth?
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Jan 24 2022 03:50am
I was expecting Putin to attack this weekend. A bit disappointed.
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Jan 24 2022 07:54am
In recent years, the MSM tried to spook us into thinking that:

War with North Korea was imminent.
Trump was about to start WW3.

No-one holds the MSM accountable for this stuff, so they keep on doing it. This time with Russia invading Ukraine.
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Jan 24 2022 08:09am
Quote (Nibthebarb @ Jan 24 2022 01:36am)
Regardless of what actually happens in reality, the American public will not be in the loop. Media, as usual, will run cover for Biden, whether he throws a congratulatory parade for Putin for successfully conquering Ukraine, or drops ICBMs on every Russian population center over 2. Any "invasion" will not be as sexy as Hollywood or video games would convey. I don't have a dog in this fight, but Putin knows that the American Empire's priority is protecting Biden, not peace in Ukraine. If Biden can get away with doing nothing meaningful, he'll do nothing meaningful. There will be all sorts of pointless debates about it here and on network TV that will amount to jack squat.

In that sense, Ukrainian civilians in the hot zones should count their blessings that our media complex is so corrupt. If the majority of our dinner table conversations were dictated by something like Trump News, the American public would be watching Putin like a hawk, knowing they'll get accurate insight into the situation, and the Russian position would be largely conciliatory and less blustery.




LOLOLOLOL yes the beacon of truth...too funny
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Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 23 2022 03:36pm)
Seems like Russia has every reason and opportunity to invade. Biden has capitulated to Russian interests, and Ukraine's sole bargaining chip to stave off invasion was the throttling of gas being exported to Germany. The entire point of Nord Stream 2 was to literally circumvent Ukraine as a transit country, and now we're about to head into the spring months and remove Ukraine's only threat, while Biden has gone from being asleep at the wheel to straight up telling Russia he won't fight back. At this point Putin has a completely open playing field and its all a matter of how much he wants to invest in aggression. He doesn't actually want to retake the worthless parts of western Ukraine, but he might add the Donbass to Crimea and reinstall a friendly puppet regime in Kyiv to reverse the 2014 coup America backed to install our puppets.

Why pretend that the conflict is one-sided aggression? Both sides of the iron curtain have always been cynical opportunists and aggressors. At least this time the stakes are going to be low because we know America will just sit by and let Russia do whatever the fuck it wants completely unchecked because Biden is an impotent fool


You of all people should know better. Believe it or not there are some countries and leaders that exist in this world that don't treat the entire world like a game of chess.

Russia gains nothing from Ukraine other than the black sea port from Crimea, which has already been annexed.

Ukraine proper is a barren country with an economy totally destroyed by war and is full of rabid Russophobes who hate Russia because they are still upset they fought with the Nazis in WW2 and lost. Seriously. These guys wanted the Nazis to win.

It is beyond Russia's means to both control the population as well as restore the economy of this dead country. It would take hundreds of billions, money which Russia doesn't have.

In other words, even simple rational analysis shows Russia has nothing to gain by invading Ukraine other than sanctioning herself, destroying diplomatic ties and justifying Western aggression towards her.

Which means it's all a fairytale for consumption by children and armchair "experts", a combination of delusional paranoia and hysteria from the elite. They want a war badly. Guess they don't care if the whole planet is vaporized. They might even like it, thinning out the global population and what not.

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Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jan 24 2022 12:05pm)
You of all people should know better. Believe it or not there are some countries and leaders that exist in this world that don't treat the entire world like a game of chess.

Russia gains nothing from Ukraine other than the black sea port from Crimea, which has already been annexed.

Ukraine proper is a barren country with an economy totally destroyed by war and is full of rabid Russophobes who hate Russia because they are still upset they fought with the Nazis in WW2 and lost. Seriously. These guys wanted the Nazis to win.

It is beyond Russia's means to both control the population as well as restore the economy of this dead country. It would take hundreds of billions, money which Russia doesn't have.

In other words, even simple rational analysis shows Russia has nothing to gain by invading Ukraine other than sanctioning herself, destroying diplomatic ties and justifying Western aggression towards her.

Which means it's all a fairytale for consumption by children and armchair "experts", a combination of delusional paranoia and hysteria from the elite. They want a war badly. Guess they don't care if the whole planet is vaporized. They might even like it, thinning out the global population and what not.


Russia 'gains' by extending its sphere of influence over its immediate neighbors and not having a NATO puppet bordering it. Do you think America would be fine with Russia overthrowing the Mexican government and installing a pro-Russian regime?
Extending its control over Ukraine is easily within its power, that was the status quo until 2014. Did the world not exist before euromaidan?
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