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AngelsAbove
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Jan 23 2022 11:43am
Quote (devilslayer @ Jan 23 2022 07:55am)
PvMers talking shit to PvPers is insanely cringe..... PvP is and has been the only challenge in D2 for 20 years.


softcore players like to pretend that pvp doesn't happen on Hardcore because it's the only thing keeping their little narrative bubble from being popped and realizing that they are, indeed

pussy
Chronic957
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Jan 23 2022 11:43am
Tbh it was the botting community that kept d2 alive all these years to feed to the high paying people there pvp gear ya you have single player ppl and plugy ppl but at the end of the day the only 2 things that kept people on diablo bnet was botting and pvp

That’s why shakos are free on nl and 3/20/20 will cost a fortune forever
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Jan 23 2022 11:46am
Quote (Mystic_Bardock @ 23 Jan 2022 18:40)
Then we're arguing about nothing. PVP is not why D2R got made. That is my point. There's a lot of threads and posts recently in this sub about how PVP is the only reason D2R got made and it's the most important aspect. Clearly refutable. PVP has it's place, but it's never gonna be the main focus of Blizzard's balance changes. They're never going to say "oh shit we can't buff FoH because it would be BM in PVP."

I'm arguing over that you vastly underestimate how important PvP actually is to d2:s longevity. And yeah, I would contribute D2:s great pvp aspects to have a HUGE part as to how we ended up with a d2 remake in 2021. Not the only one, but could be argued to be the most important part. cuz without PvP, d2 would've been killed off much, much sooner due to new games coming out who are better at pvm. But for pvp in the genre d2 was it, basically.

Btw this guy https://www.youtube.com/c/Coooley/ , who isn't a top tier dueller btw, started streaming/youtubing like what, a year ago? and he has a crowd. He has several youtube videos about d2 pvp with 150-200k views...
But yeah, pvp in d2 was always just 50-100 guys on useast jerking eachother of. keep thinking that.
Quote (Chronic957 @ 23 Jan 2022 18:43)
Tbh it was the botting community that kept d2 alive all these years to feed to the high paying people there pvp gear ya you have single player ppl and plugy ppl but at the end of the day the only 2 things that kept people on diablo bnet was botting and pvp

That’s why shakos are free on nl and 3/20/20 will cost a fortune forever

Botting is a means not an endgoal. Without pvp people wouldnt be botting for decades.
I prefer d2 clean of bots myself.

This post was edited by SpAz. on Jan 23 2022 11:48am
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Jan 23 2022 11:46am
Quote (Sonbry @ Jan 23 2022 12:42pm)
Sure go craft me some 2/30/20/2 circlets pls. Gtfo and go farm some countess or something :banana:


I've forgotten more about dueling than you'll ever know. I was scamming kids with steelclashes and gemmed caps when you were a tiny little semen in your daddys sack.
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Jan 23 2022 11:48am
Quote (VickIsSick07 @ Jan 23 2022 09:46am)
I've forgotten more about dueling than you'll ever know. I was scamming kids with steelclashes and gemmed caps when you were a tiny little semen in your daddys sack.



Who knew pvm scrubs can be so edgy :hail:
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Jan 23 2022 11:48am
PVP.
DHA
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Jan 24 2022 05:38am
Blizzard don't listen to the right ppl.

It's not pvm, speedruns, or "Pvm mods" that kept D2 alive, they are pretty recents.

Pvm in D2 is so easy, the grind is fun but come on lol. No patch/no new contents in 10 years and you think ppl played for endless baalruns? For 10 years?
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Jan 24 2022 05:47am
Quote (AngelsAbove @ 23 Jan 2022 11:43)
softcore players like to pretend that pvp doesn't happen on Hardcore because it's the only thing keeping their little narrative bubble from being popped and realizing that they are, indeed

pussy


bm can be fun and all, but its not the same lol
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Jan 24 2022 05:47am
pvp in diablo is for noobs
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Jan 24 2022 06:55am
You know what, forget it. Play the game how you want it, some people are confrontational and others are not.

Everybody’s different

But don’t for a second say one side is better than the other because they are both part of the same game and both contribute their own part to the reason why we are still here today

This post was edited by amplitude on Jan 24 2022 07:02am
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