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izParagonzi
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Jan 21 2022 01:34pm
Quote (peterqwer @ Jan 22 2022 03:20am)
Do you get objective completion if you're in a group but in town while the other members kill it?

Also with maps, can they spawn all the bonuses like emblems, wells like the catacombs and their attributes are extra guaranteed ones, or those are the amounts that spawn in total? I vaguely remember when I started playing that there was a x3 wells event and I got some in maps but not 100% I might have just wasted well maps..


Sorry, forgot to answer this post. I do believe that while you are in town and the objective is completed during that time and it is one of the ones that your character can complete... you DO get the objective.

However, with the mention of a phone player that has DC'd and you join and complete that objective, I am not sure that the game creator would get that objective as well, considering, if you press 'Enter' and type '/who (their character name)' and press enter, you will get notice that that user is OFFLINE... so in this case, I would surmise that this persons character will NOT get the objective.
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Quote (izParagonzi @ 21 Jan 2022 20:23)
100% correct, not arguing, it would be awesome if early level objectives SPAWNED faster within their Level requirement.

Level 6 requirement for Pinch of evil (I mean come on, you should get objective a HELL of a lot faster currently)
Level 16 requirement for Ambush (again have to complete other objectives for it to be activated like Sneaky / Pest / Bits)

But, the X # of explored tiles (steps) and/or the # of encounters within the size of the Maze (catacomb or map) is (by my own judgement) is percentage (%) based... so if the catacomb maze size is X by X square, the # of steps and/or encounters increases based on the character level of a CATACOMB (not map, since the map maze size is SET in stone) where the maze increases in size within 5 levels ... i.e. level 4 catacomb size is larger than creating a level 1 catacomb, you can also notice the catacomb size change as you progress in character level, like level 8 is equivalent to a Tier II map.

No one actually notices these things, especially since "Whistle" was introduced, they just level up whistling Dixie all day long after they "complete the maze" etc.


for me the problem isn't necessarily how hard they are to find or the level req, it's that face the evil and shamans and the rest take up slots even though they can't spawn solo. I understand the game was designed for group play, but then groups aren't doing objectives either nowadays.

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Jan 21 2022 01:41pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ 21 Jan 2022 20:34)
Sorry, forgot to answer this post. I do believe that while you are in town and the objective is completed during that time and it is one of the ones that your character can complete... you DO get the objective.

However, with the mention of a phone player that has DC'd and you join and complete that objective, I am not sure that the game creator would get that objective as well, considering, if you press 'Enter' and type '/who (their character name)' and press enter, you will get notice that that user is OFFLINE... so in this case, I would surmise that this persons character will NOT get the objective.


yeah I meant if you're non-dc in town, thanks.
I might try this map tactic with pest and sneaky though, finally I understand why level cap is useful on maps
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Jan 21 2022 02:01pm
Tl;dr
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Quote (izParagonzi @ Jan 21 2022 02:23pm)
100% correct, not arguing, it would be awesome if early level objectives SPAWNED faster within their Level requirement.

Level 6 requirement for Pinch of evil (I mean come on, you should get objective a HELL of a lot faster currently)
Level 16 requirement for Ambush (again have to complete other objectives for it to be activated like Sneaky / Pest / Bits)

But, the X # of explored tiles (steps) and/or the # of encounters within the size of the Maze (catacomb or map) is (by my own judgement) is percentage (%) based... so if the catacomb maze size is X by X square, the # of steps and/or encounters increases based on the character level of a CATACOMB (not map, since the map maze size is SET in stone) where the maze increases in size within 5 levels ... i.e. level 4 catacomb size is larger than creating a level 1 catacomb, you can also notice the catacomb size change as you progress in character level, like level 8 is equivalent to a Tier II map.

No one actually notices these things, especially since "Whistle" was introduced, they just level up whistling Dixie all day long after they "complete the maze" etc.


the maze ONLY increases if you REMAKE the game. and remake the MAZE.

and if you do that. you now have to RE STEP.

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Quote (peterqwer @ Jan 21 2022 02:37pm)
for me the problem isn't necessarily how hard they are to find or the level req, it's that face the evil and shamans and the rest take up slots even though they can't spawn solo. I understand the game was designed for group play, but then groups aren't doing objectives either nowadays.



groups most def are doing objectives. especially on GOOD events.

either doing explore climbs from 55 to 71 for potential.(i only say 55 to 71 because thats what i prefer some may be doing early/later) and if im doing this ill knock out some of the objectives early so we have better ones for 55. if they dont spawn they dont spawn but if they do. bonus

or doing mirror maze.

This post was edited by slushslush on Jan 21 2022 02:20pm
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Jan 21 2022 03:24pm
Quote (peterqwer @ Jan 22 2022 08:37am)
for me the problem isn't necessarily how hard they are to find or the level req, it's that face the evil and shamans and the rest take up slots even though they can't spawn solo. I understand the game was designed for group play, but then groups aren't doing objectives either nowadays.


I know where you are coming from, and I relate. Now, during my time playing LS, the objective "Face the Evil" was and still is a FUCKING BITCH to spawn, even after all the updates from 2010 (12 fucking years later it is still a fucking Bitch Objective!) Note: don't get me wrong, I used to play SC in the day, and I have only seen it appear like 3-5 times... don't know how fast it spawns with all the groups that "Whistle" dixie all day long and their encounters for this objective (FtE), but I doubt they complete this one faster then completing Sneaky or Shamans or Swarm etc.

Anyway, I did a suggestion a YEAR or (s) ago that the OBJECTIVE list should be increased from the maximum of three(3) to five(5) [as long as they have met the prerequisite(s)] and of course, the community thought my suggestion was a pile of Dung and did not realise the implications or impact it makes to this game, and with the updates, it is more prominent that it SHOULD be adjusted.

Quote (peterqwer @ Jan 22 2022 08:41am)
yeah I meant if you're non-dc in town, thanks.
I might try this map tactic with pest and sneaky though, finally I understand why level cap is useful on maps


I like this idea, but for me personally, I don't want Treasure Pest objective to appear unless my character level is 30+, this way, if by a miracle chance it drops a great item, at least the tier level is not going to be Tier V, and hopefully it will be a Tier VIII+.

Quote (slushslush @ Jan 22 2022 09:17am)
the maze ONLY increases if you REMAKE the game. and remake the MAZE.

and if you do that. you now have to RE STEP.



Again, 100% correct, as a solo'er or BUFCORE character, you MAY encounter certain monsters like Slugslider / Gigabee that fill up 9 squares fast and your killing speed can NOT clear them fast enough, or getting that TYPE of monster when you drop a White item into a Well that is 5 levels below your character level and you have to work crazy hard to clear all monsters that were "call for help" ability of Slug / Giga.

So, if it is too tough because of crap / mediocre gear or a welling monster (Slug/Giga) filling up 9 monster squares... you either stick around and spend an hour or more trying to kill them, or you REMAKE (create a new game) and subjected to the X# of steps you take &/or encounters being set back to a zero(0) count... start again from scratch to spawn the objective previously.
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Jan 21 2022 03:28pm
You cant kill a 9 wave as a big time solo player? Shesh.
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Jan 21 2022 03:30pm
Quote (Light_Prince @ Jan 22 2022 10:28am)
You cant kill a 9 wave as a big time solo player? Shesh.


What? I have and still kill a 9 wave of slugs / giga to this day with mediocre gear! What are you trying to say here? Can you not handle the jandal to do this or what?

EDIT: I get it now, you think new players have the gear you use... damn, they must be more awesome than either of us starting with good to great gear. Oh w8... they start out with Tier I white items, and if you are lucky more than the standard 2 items per feeder class.

This post was edited by izParagonzi on Jan 21 2022 03:32pm
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Jan 21 2022 03:35pm
Quote (izParagonzi @ Jan 21 2022 04:30pm)
What? I have and still kill a 9 wave of slugs / giga to this day with mediocre gear! What are you trying to say here? Can you not handle the jandal to do this or what?

EDIT: I get it now, you think new players have the gear you use... damn, they must be more awesome than either of us starting with good to great gear. Oh w8... they start out with Tier I white items, and if you are lucky more than the standard 2 items per feeder class.


almost certain he was trolling :D
izParagonzi
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Jan 22 2022 01:11pm
Quote (slushslush @ Jan 22 2022 10:35am)
almost certain he was trolling :D


100% trolling, but me being me, I just like to respond. :D

The Vote count is decent... 4 / 4 / 8.
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